Available now: Tone2 Nemesis 2.4

[aMUSEd]

Oh well I'm having to use the VST3 now as I have a M1 Mac and use NI Komplete Kontrol where VST2 is not supported except using Rosetta. Unfortunately I am having problems with automation params. Firstly the update info says 'All parameters are available for the DAW's automation now' but I can only automate knobs, not any of the buttons. More problematic, I find the VST3 is not sending back to the host param position data so if I learn a knob in Komplete Kontrol (this is not midi learn note, this is using VST host automation) when I switch presets the knob position changes as one would expect in Nemesis but the corresponding mapped knob in Komplete Kontrol should also change position but it doesn't. So the plugin is out of sync with the host with regard to automation params. If I move the mapped knob in KK it does then move the Nemesis knob, so communication does exist but only one way, it should be both ways.

[ZincT]

Is anyone else with Nemesis v2.4 getting version 2.1 on "show version info" screen?

[Markus Krause]

We invite you to join the Public Beta of Nemesis3:
https://www.tone2.com/download.html
Nemesis can do classic digital synthesis methods as well as a new approach called 'NeoFM'. A warm and creamy signature-sound is generated by its engine.



New features:

• 100 new patches created by a professional sound-designer.
• GUI with 22 different sizes (with and without keys).
• Native support for WQHD, 4K, 5K and 8K UHD displays.
• GUI can be scaled from 66% up to 300% by clicking in the lower right corner.
• Reworked and enhanced graphics.
• Support for hardware-acceleration.
• Ultrasharp graphics with enhanced HiDpi and Retina Display support.
• Additional patterns for the Arpeggiator.
• Automatic detection of the ideal GUI size.
• Completely rewritten GUI code.
• More contrast for the LCD displays.
• The animations are faster and smoother.
• Fine-tuned some coordinates in the interface.
• Re-sizing the VST3, Standalone and Audiounit works more reliable.
• Fine-tuned some colors.
• More responisve controls.
• Removed the demo-version timeout and added a voice-over.
• Patch browser can now also be opened by clicking on 'Browser' or the display on the upper left.
• A warning is shown when the user selects a gui-size that is too large for the screen.
• The keyboard is now also animated when the patch browser is open.
• Broken and badly designed patches are fixed automatically.
• A warning message is shown when the installation is damaged.
• Enhanced performance.
• Enhanced stability.
• Lots of small improvements.

Enhancements - sound quality:

• Most parts of the audio-engine now use 64-bit precision instead of 32-bit, which results in a higher sound-quality.
• Higher quality resampling in 44 and 88 kHz sample-rate.
• More precise pitch calculation.
• Slightly enhanced sound of the automatic micro-tuning.
• Many subtle enhancements.

New sounds:

Nemesis3 contains 100 new production-ready sounds. The patches were created by the developer of Tone2 synthesizers himself (Markus Krause).
All patches are carefully crafted and can be morphed with the modwheel.
To keep it easy to find find the right patch the new ones were distributed among the existing categories. You can easily detect the new sounds, as their name ends with 'N3' (Nemesis3).

[Korg Supporter]

Please add proper 4-operator algorithms!

[Markus Krause]

Nemesis can do 4 operator FM and a lot more since a decade. Unlike conventional FM synths Nemesis is not limited to sine waves. I recommend that read the manual and learn how to program it

[Korg Supporter]

Nemesis can do 4 operator FM and a lot more since a decade

I know its has many oscillator algorithms, but I find that you can only layer 2 operator pairs and not chain the operators in other ways. That's what I meant.

[Markus Krause]

I understand. You are used to the algorithms known from the DX7. Nemesis is much more easy and efficient to program and has a different architecture. It uses groups of up to 16 partials (=harmonically tuned sine waves) or any other waveform with 2x2 operator pairs and 4x stereo unison.
However, the different architechture does not mean that it is not capable of doing classic FM sounds. I own a Yamaha DX mini and was able to reprogramm all its factory sound accurately. You can easily spot these sounds in Nemesis3 as their name ends with 'N3'.

[zvenx]

Glad you continue to support your instruments.

Will this be a paid or free upgrade?
rsp

[j wazza]

tone2 make some great synths but I find the marketing jargon a bit offputting, it seems like neoFM is just FM (not PM). How is it different from other true fm synths that don't alias?

Icarus and gladiator are great synths though so any tone2 synth is worth a demo

[Korg Supporter]

I own a Yamaha DX mini and was able to reprogramm all its factory sound accurately. You can easily spot these sounds in Nemesis3 as their name ends with 'N3'.

You meant a DX200 or Reface DX? Either way, that's awesome.

[Markus Krause]

tone2 make some great synths but I find the marketing jargon a bit offputting, it seems like neoFM is just FM (not PM). How is it different from other true fm synths that don't alias?

Icarus and gladiator are great synths though so any tone2 synth is worth a demo

From a technical point of view, conventional 'FM synthesizers' actually use phase modulation to generate sound - but for historical marketing reasons they are advertised as 'FM synthesizers'. The traditional method, however, is limited to bell-like sounds and often produces an unpleasant, metallic sound.
Some analog synthesizers can do true FM. However, this suffers from the lack of precision of the oscillators, which creates an inharmonic sound that is not particularly useful musically.
The innovative NeoFM approach combines the advantages of both worlds without taking over the respective weaknesses. It is now easier than ever to get great sounding results.

[j wazza]

tone2 make some great synths but I find the marketing jargon a bit offputting, it seems like neoFM is just FM (not PM). How is it different from other true fm synths that don't alias?

Icarus and gladiator are great synths though so any tone2 synth is worth a demo

From a technical point of view, conventional 'FM synthesizers' actually use phase modulation to generate sound - but for historical marketing reasons they are advertised as 'FM synthesizers'. The traditional method, however, is limited to bell-like sounds and often produces an unpleasant, metallic sound.
Some analog synthesizers can do true FM. However, this suffers from the lack of precision of the oscillators, which creates an inharmonic sound that is not particularly useful musically.
The innovative NeoFM approach combines the advantages of both worlds without taking over the respective weaknesses. It is now easier than ever to get great sounding results.

I asked about true fm, not PM. Linear through zero FM stays in tune, at least when done with oscs that are in tune in the first place. So not sure how it is different from linear through zero fm on other synths that don't alias.

[j wazza]

It seems from what you've said that it's the same as linear FM. Whether it is or it isn't, vaguely calling it innovative neo FM with no explanation is bad marketing. The only people who would be interested in innovative neo FM are people who are into advanced synthesis, who would want to know how it is different from plain old FM. Vague buzzwords might work on beginners, but I think beginners don't really use FM, let alone looking for innovative versions of FM. So all this marketing does is put off advanced synthesists from buying it, as it makes it seem like something aimed at tricking beginners, not a proper tool. Nemesis has great features, I think it would be best not to distract from that with vague buzzwords.

[Markus Krause]

I'd be more careful with making false accusations. You're not the developer and you don't know how it works in detail. It is obvious that you've never seriously worked with the synth. Otherwise you'd know that it sounds drastically different than conventional FM synths.

Like PM the neoFM algorithm always stays perfectly in sync with the phase and pitch. This is not perfectly possible with other approaches. There are always rounding errors because the phase needs to be accumulated. Things there quickly can go out of sync/phase when pitch is modulated or waveforms are modulated. In Nemesis there is no unwanted oscillator-phase-shift or detuning at all (unless you explicitly want it). Never. This results in higher precision sounds and higher sound-quality.

Apart from this the synth engine can do 100% alias-free FM and PM and waveshaping with any waveform (up to 32768(!) partials). I'm sure there is no other synth out there that can do this with reasonable CPU demand in perfect sound quality.

neoFM is also not limited to sine waves or simple looped waveforms. You can load ANY short sample in wav format to the oscillators. This works for the modulator as well the carrier. All that 100% alias-free from LFO up to the HF frequency-range. It allows sounds with extremely complex waveforms which are not possible with conventional synthesizers.

You can directly compare the results 'neoFM' vs 'FM/PM' vs 'FM/FM vintage DX' by clicking in the blue box on the right and selecting a different algorithm. Any amateur can clearly hear the difference.

[Korg Supporter]

I'd be more careful with making false accusations. You're not the developer and you don't know how it works in detail. It is obvious that you've never seriously worked with the synth. Otherwise you'd know that it sounds drastically different than conventional FM synths.

Like PM the neoFM algorithm always stays perfectly in sync with the phase and pitch. This is not perfectly possible with other approaches. There are always rounding errors because the phase needs to be accumulated. Things there quickly can go out of sync/phase when pitch is modulated or waveforms are modulated. In Nemesis there is no unwanted oscillator-phase-shift or detuning at all (unless you explicitly want it). Never. This results in higher precision sounds and higher sound-quality.

Apart from this the synth engine can do 100% alias-free FM and PM and waveshaping with any waveform (up to 32768(!) partials). I'm sure there is no other synth out there that can do this with reasonable CPU demand in perfect sound quality.

You can directly compare the results 'neoFM' vs 'FM/PM' vs 'FM/FM vintage DX' by clicking in the blue box on the right and selecting a different algorithm. Any amateur can clearly hear the difference.

So what you are describing is essentially Thru-Zero FM?