KVR Audio

pc999 · Post by **pc999** » Tue May 23, 2023 6:47 pm

pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:12 pm
rageix wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:08 pm 4. I'm sure just like Push 2 it would work as a generic midi controller. The only reason to buy this is to use it with Live. Otherwise get a different drum pad or launchpad type device.
What other Drum Pad or Launchpad type device supports MPE?

This?
https://www.embodme.com/erae-touch

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue May 23, 2023 6:55 pm

pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:41 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm And an audio IO for if you are on the road with a laptop or want to hook up the ADAT for CV work etc...
Who the hell wants to travel with their laptop and something the size of Push 3! It's huge!

People who play live with PUSH as their main instrument!

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue May 23, 2023 6:59 pm

pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:46 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm And an audio IO for if you are on the road with a laptop or want to hook up the ADAT for CV work etc...
Oh, and my RME babyface Pro has ADAT, XLR inputs and outputs and phantom power. Plus it is compact and runs off of the laptop power.

But then you need your Babyface plugged in to your laptop and your Linnstrument and you still don't have a Live controller (the hardware experience with that display and rotaries). At the end of the day people either vale the PUSH/Live integration or they don't...but even if you don't a PUSH 3 is a lot cheaper than a Linnstrument + a babyface! Half as much?

PUSH 3 is probably the device that will make MPE mainstream and make more VST makers go MPE...

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:15 pm

pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:46 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm And an audio IO for if you are on the road with a laptop or want to hook up the ADAT for CV work etc...
Oh, and my RME babyface Pro has ADAT, XLR inputs and outputs and phantom power. Plus it is compact and runs off of the laptop power.

Oh and it’s a f**king useless DAW, MPE, instrument and midi controller…

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:17 pm

So much hate from the Bitwig fans.
So very weird.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:28 pm

This is a great short video showing the MPE and hardware workflow...

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:34 pm

SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:55 pm
pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:41 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm And an audio IO for if you are on the road with a laptop or want to hook up the ADAT for CV work etc...
Who the hell wants to travel with their laptop and something the size of Push 3! It's huge!
People who play live with PUSH as their main instrument!

Oh, yeah... I was thinking about traveling

apoclypse · Post by **apoclypse** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:39 pm

simmo75 wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:17 pm So much hate from the Bitwig fans.
So very weird.

Until someone hacks it and runs Bitwig and DrivenbyMoss then they'll love it.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm

SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:59 pm
pdxindy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:46 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:21 pm And an audio IO for if you are on the road with a laptop or want to hook up the ADAT for CV work etc...
Oh, and my RME babyface Pro has ADAT, XLR inputs and outputs and phantom power. Plus it is compact and runs off of the laptop power.
But then you need your Babyface plugged in to your laptop and your Linnstrument and you still don't have a Live controller (the hardware experience with that display and rotaries). At the end of the day people either vale the PUSH/Live integration or they don't...but even if you don't a PUSH 3 is a lot cheaper than a Linnstrument + a babyface! Half as much?

PUSH 3 is probably the device that will make MPE mainstream and make more VST makers go MPE...

I'm very happy to see Push 3 with full MPE support. I agree it will move MPE forward for everyone! Especially I expect it to help with getting plugin developers to put more work into MPE presets.

I was thinking about travel and portability... my Linnstrument 128, Babyface Pro and laptop fit in a regular knapsack/backpack and nothing needs to be plugged in. I can go sit in the park making music for hours with that setup.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue May 23, 2023 7:48 pm

rod_zero wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:39 pm The new pads are impressive for sure and for me the best new feature, will get it for that but just the controller version.

Same here ... I've been "in" since v1 then did the trade in for v2. Need to watch some demos.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue May 23, 2023 8:14 pm

SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:02 pm Sensel is no more unless you get one second hand.

I know, I own one. And the original question didnt make availability a constraint.

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Tue May 23, 2023 8:30 pm

nanostream wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:19 pm Damn, I’m seriously tempted. I’m in the market for an MPE controller anyway, but didn’t pull the trigger yet. Joué is cheap, but seems to have reliability issues, and the other one‘s are a bit pricey.

Now, Push 3 isn’t exactly cheap either, but I’d get a Live controller on top of MPE pads, which seem fine by the looks of it. I’ll have to watch a few more YouTube videos, hmmm.

F**k it, I’ve just ordered the controller version. I really like that they’ve included audio IO w/ adat. It's not the most important thing, but might come in handy from time to time.

Can’t wait to finally play around with MPE, I’ve been waiting for a really long time, and I expect the usability and integration to be top notch. Hope I’m not wrong

Oh, and I’ll have to learn Push, right … back to session view, I guess, at least partially.

HOTF · Post by **HOTF** » Tue May 23, 2023 8:51 pm

nanostream wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:30 pm
nanostream wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:19 pm Damn, I’m seriously tempted. I’m in the market for an MPE controller anyway, but didn’t pull the trigger yet. Joué is cheap, but seems to have reliability issues, and the other one‘s are a bit pricey.

Now, Push 3 isn’t exactly cheap either, but I’d get a Live controller on top of MPE pads, which seem fine by the looks of it. I’ll have to watch a few more YouTube videos, hmmm.
F**k it, I’ve just ordered the controller version. I really like that they’ve included audio IO w/ adat. It's not the most important thing, but might come in handy from time to time.

Can’t wait to finally play around with MPE, I’ve been waiting for a really long time, and I expect the usability and integration to be top notch. Hope I’m not wrong

Oh, and I’ll have to learn Push, right … back to session view, I guess, at least partially.

Man I know a lot of people exclusively use arragement view but for idea creation session view feels so much better imo.

Double Tap · Post by **Double Tap** » Tue May 23, 2023 8:55 pm

I wasn’t impressed much by the idea of the audio interface but even with a laptop it really helps turn two bits of gear into a proper portable live performance kit. I wonder if it will help me find an audience too…

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue May 23, 2023 9:03 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:14 pm
SLiC wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:02 pm Sensel is no more unless you get one second hand.
I know, I own one. And the original question didnt make availability a constraint.

Ah, so it doesn’t actually have to be available to be a competitor!

I sold mine as it was very poor at low velocity sensitivity (a bit on off), I wouldn’t say it was good for drums at all but ok for sliding around on. I didn’t get on with the linn for drumming either…I suspect PUSH 3 will eat in to Linn sales…it’s the first mainstream MPE controller and it looks like a good one.

Ableton Push 3 - standalone MPE controller