Ableton Live 11.3.2 not installing on Windows 8.1

[vurt]

Yeah I'd definitely go the Windows10 route then. I'm a little phobic about 11 but I've seen one guy on here that is problem free with it and he's a pro guy and goes on tour and everything .. is it Bones ? Can't remember his username ...

i too am on 10, and have no issues whatsoever.
but i chose when to do it, the right time for me (win7 rig started smoking as much as me) and id already started buying odd peripherals to replace a few bits that i knew wouldn't be updated to support win 10.
this meant when the pc needed replacing, everything was in place to be plugged in and have a working rig.

[SLiC]

I am on Win 11 and its the most stable Windows version I have ever used, it looks good- works well and I have had no issues what-so-ever.

[whyterabbyt]

Would love to see exactly what you mean regarding "expensive" devices that people would like to keep using - that seemingly (for the purpose of this specific thread) that are inexplicably ONLY supported on Windows 8.1

I dont run Windows 8.1 on my DAW, I run Windows 7.

And those expensive devices, for me, would include two generations of Nord Modular, a motorised control surface, an 8x8 MIDI interface, and two audo interfaces which deliver a total of 24 channels of audio IO. Not a lot compared to some of my other hardware, but replacement cost would be considerably more than that of the PC they're connected to.

The OP makes no mention of "expensive" hardware.

I wasnt speaking for the OP; you said 'anyone'

And before you start throwing around any sillies, please dont start telling me what I do or dont know, did or didnt do, or do or dont think regarding the lifespan of an OS and its impact on the continued usability of connected hardware devices; the implications of legacy hardware support are not exactly an unknown to me, managing that sort of thing has been part of my job for at least the past two decades. We still have a specialist printer that runs on XP, because it wont work on anything later, and it'd be £50K+ of -utterly pointless- expenditure to replace.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

pretty sure he said he didn't want to upgrade the why? isn't important really...

True dat.

My initial post was simply to say that I am stunned that someone would dig in their heels so hard on something like Win 8.

Whether the OP wants to actaully solve his issue and use today's upgrades OR stay in 2014 only to swing back in here to complain when he hits the next hurdle and the one after that is none of my business.

VP

[whyterabbyt]

pretty sure he said he didn't want to upgrade
the why? isn't important really...

I genuinely wonder who'd want to have to upgrade their system because the software they want to use mandates installation of a driver for a device they dont own .

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I genuinely wonder who'd want to have to upgrade their system because the software they want to use mandates installation of a driver for a device they dont own .

I genuinely wonder why anyone who is choosing to run an OS that is officially "END OF LIFE" and is long since unsupported by the DAW vendor regardless of a device driver they do not want - would assume that they could just install every update until the end of time against that dead OS and have it work?

VP

[whyterabbyt]

I genuinely wonder who'd want to have to upgrade their system because the software they want to use mandates installation of a driver for a device they dont own .

I genuinely wonder why anyone who is choosing to run an OS that is officially "END OF LIFE" and unsupported by the DAW vendor regardless of a device driver they do not want - would assume that they could just install every update until the end of time against a dead OS and have it work?

VP

So you're 'genuinely' wondering about something that didnt actually happen? Is that because you're a complete idiot, or because you're a complete cock?

[Vocalpoint Studios]

So you're 'genuinely' wondering about something that didnt actually happen?

Apologies - seems I missed a whole segment of your other post above. Give me a moment.

Ok - I reviewed it. My comments were not directed at you. Or your gear or Windows 7. You do you.

I would rather focus on the actual thread topic.

VP

[whyterabbyt]

I would rather focus on the actual thread topic.

well, that would be if there's a solution for the OP, ie what he actually asked, not whether or not he should upgrade his system, right?

[Vocalpoint Studios]

well, that would be if there's a solution for the OP, ie what he actually asked, not whether or not he should upgrade his system, right?

Yep - but I think he knows what his "real" options are. On the surface - move up or stay back.

I suppose the third option is the installer hack that was mentioned - but who knows what that might result in later. His call on whether he wants to get into it.

VP

[fedexnman]

I totally get the OP position in all this . You have Ableton 11 that has been able to work for Windows 8 all this time and NOW the new live11.3.# whatever doesn't because the install cause he's NOT on w 10 or w 11 ... I totally get it . He may need to contact Ableton support. Like I said I've had good experiences with Microsoft even though I don't like the spyware that it has become . But at the same time anything Google , Apple , Facebook , etc etc is all up in our business ..

[Vocalpoint Studios]

He may need to contact Ableton support.

Well - I am strongly suspecting as soon Ableton Support hears the very mention of Windows 8.1 - the OP will probably get a very short "Sorry, not supported" message.

There is almost zero chance they would actually take this one on since Win 8.x is end of life and does not appear anywhere under current system requirements.

But one could always try....

What is becoming super ironic is that in the time it took for us to hack this thread out to 30 posts - the OP could have done an in place Win 10 upgrade and be cutting tracks right now in AL 11.3.2

VP

[fedexnman]

He may need to contact Ableton support.

Well - I am strongly suspecting as soon Ableton Support hears the very mention of Windows 8.1 - the OP will probably get a very short "Sorry, not supported" message.

There is almost zero chance they would actually take this one on since Win 8.x is end of life and does not appear anywhere under current system requirements.

But one could always try....

What is becoming super ironic is that in the time it took for us to hack this thread out to 30 posts - the OP could have done an in place Win 10 upgrade and be cutting tracks right now in AL 11.3.2

VP

lol even better one for you . . Could've backed up his Windows 8.1 install , then done the upgrade lol

[hcv242]

Here's how I installed the latest Lite version (on Windows 10) without installing the Push driver. Give it a try and see if it works for you on 8.1.

Download UniExtract from here (the link is under Assets).

Unzip and run UniExtract. You can skip out of the setup wizard if you like.
Unzip the Ableton zip file.
Open the Ableton installer.exe in UniExtract and unpack it. It will unpack it into a folder with the same name as the installer.
Inside this new folder is a folder called AttachedContainer. Copy the Installer Data .cab files into here.
This folder also has the Push driver. Delete it (or replace it with the older driver, maybe renamed to match).
Run the Setup.msi in this folder and hope for the best.

Thanks a lot. This was my first thought too, but it didn´t worked at first since i was using uniextract
1.6. i downloaded a new version and could extract the files nicely and install with no problems

To the people that kept talking about updating, get a life, really. mind your own business, you were not helpful at all.

[fedexnman]

Valve Steam (gamers ) users are having the same fits about Windows7 support ending ... I'm laid up with a sprained ankle and was bored . I'm glad you found a work around !!