Absynth 5 - FL Studio i cannot automate parameters

[Caine123]

hi guys, does anyone have any tips/ideas how i can automate one of these parameters? i clicked right mouse click nothing, and checking the MULTILINK doesnt respond either



i wanted to modulate one of these parameters.....

thx

[N__K]

Apparently those particular parameters are not assingable even inside Absynth.
If you right-click a parameter in "Ctl Sens" column, it even says "Not Assignable" in Absynth's font.

So it would seem that they cannot be linked to controllers or automated in any DAW - probably because of some architectural limitation in Absynth.

[Caine123]

Apparently those particular parameters are not assingable even inside Absynth.
If you right-click a parameter in "Ctl Sens" column, it even says "Not Assignable" in Absynth's font.

So it would seem that they cannot be linked to controllers or automated in any DAW - probably because of some architectural limitation in Absynth.

thx a lot, with the HIGHPASS knob it doesnt show the "Not Assignable" though. seems they forgot it

[N__K]

Regarding automatable high-passing at that point in Absynth's signal chain, it should be possible to do it by using two Absynth instances:

1. Absynth VSTi version for the dry sound, with its "Effect" section disabled
2. Absynth VST (the FX version) with DAW's Dry/Wet set as you wish, Absynth's oscillator set to "Audio In", a filter module after it set to HP, with "Effect" section enabled and its "Dry" parameter set to -96

With a more complex routing - for example in FL Studio's Patcher - it should also be possible to put a third-party highpass filter between them, if that is preferable to using Absynth's own.

[jancivil]

Jesus.

No, look. To your first issue:

Ch C input to Effect page.png

One supposes this is called something like <Ch. C input to the Effects page>.
For any such usage, we go to the Perform page/Assign tab and look for it in a dropdown menu:

check it out.jpg

There it is; and we do the thing

Assign CC to the above.png

[jancivil]

(The second thing you want is simply not there in the list for Pipe, so no es possible.
My pictures are what I'm working on so that's the Aetherizer list which is a lot longer. Still, what you have to work with is purely limited to what you see, and/but you can make an envelope for one of these and put it in control driven mode.)

[jancivil]

To your third question, you have exactly two parameters from the high pass filter, cutoff and resonance. Both are in its control list (that dropdown menu).

There is a manual for Absynth btfw.

IDK if there's a particular problem on the FLS side, but one supposes it does handle CCs from an editor like the piano roll, as DAWs do. IE., "FL Studio" shouldn't enter into it.
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BTW, right-click is not a first resort for me for this reason, it can be confusing. I wanted just now to assign control to the Hz in an FM oscillator, and I had to know my one open CC number in this case showed an old assignment as I had not reassigned. {So to have more options it's the Perform page, Assign tab.} But I was able to remember that fact so I can do via right-click.

[N__K]

[...] One supposes this is called something like <Ch. C input to the Effects page>.

Caine123 was asking about automating the highpass filter at input stage of Effect.
"Ch. C input" or "Effect C1 input" is not the same as the frequency of that highpass filter.

The frequency of highpass filter at the input stage of Effect section is not in any list of assignable parameters (whether via right-click, or Perform/Assignments). Thus, it is not automatable.

To have an automatable HP filter at that stage in signal chain, Absynth VSTi must be used for the dry sound (the output of modules of Patch page) and Absynth VST - the effect version of the plugin, shown as "Absynth FX" in some DAWs - for the Effect section.


Attached are images of how it can be set up in FL Studio, first using filter module in Absynth FX, then with a third-party filter.

Absynth inst, HP in Absynth FX.jpg

Absynth inst, HP in Patcher, Absynth FX.jpg

[Caine123]

thx a lot! i think i need to give it up..... i just cannot wrap my head around it :/

1. this is my preset


2. then i switched the EFFECT OFF and inserter ABSYNTH 5 FX and enabled PIPE Effect like the settings in 1. and also switched to stereo but it now sounds totally different

[jancivil]

Well, that's a different whole problem.

One thing to know about 'automating' parameters in Absynth is that 100% (or "127" in the CC lane) is 100% of what you see in the GUI. AND, the visual does_not change as you go (which is something which kind of shows Absynth's age).
So if you were to assign a CC to say the A, B, and C channel inputs to the Effect in your depiction there, "127" will be 100% of nothing. In a use case to illustrate the tightrope we may be walking here, a very high FM Index (which gets wild quick) might or might not be a good idea, one factor is the resolution of MIDI is kinda low for the purpose. But it might not be easy to gauge.
OTOH the input channel level to Effect may as well be all the way up, caveat again however is resolution.

[N__K]

... i just cannot wrap my head around it :/

Try creating a Patcher routing as in this image:



..and remember to set the "Dry" parameter in Absynth FX's "Effect" section to "-96".

[jancivil]

I need to clarify regarding not seeing the movement of controllers. I meant the ones in Effect page, and then channel volume sliders. The controls for Osc, Filter, Waveshaper move there in Perform and Perform Assign.

[jancivil]

... i just cannot wrap my head around it :/

Try creating a Patcher routing

a bit obtuse, isn’t it? This adds unnecessary complexity. The question had been answered, I don’t think his trouble grasping this is helped avoiding the answer. It appears you could benefit from RTFM as well.

[Caine123]

i had to dig out an old topic!
@janivicil i think i didnt thank you?

i'm experimenting with a different preset but this time it seems not to work with the macro controls.



In the Patch view i want to automate the RATIO with the 3 well i only want one of these knobwheels), it was NOT ASSIGNED. i right clicked it and assigned it to MACRO CONTROL 2



but when i move it nothing happens



does anyone know if this is somehow linkable to a macro controller so i can automate it in my DAW?

[Nug Wrangler]

@EvilDragon could perhaps help out