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jamcat wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:58 am LX-24 is worth the $49 alone.
Maybe, but probably only if you don’t own any other reverbs.

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My upgrade costs 29 USD, I'm only missing rotary plugin. I don't know if it's worth upgrading or not.
Not updating to collection 4 means I will not get any updates for the plugins that I currently have?

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nanostream wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:09 am
jamcat wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:58 am LX-24 is worth the $49 alone.
Maybe, but probably only if you don’t own any other reverbs.
Yes! So much stuff now. I just remembered I have two rotary plugins I have never used. :roll:

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Fornicras wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:31 am My upgrade costs 29 USD, I'm only missing rotary plugin. I don't know if it's worth upgrading or not.
Not updating to collection 4 means I will not get any updates for the plugins that I currently have?
Just open ASC, the updates are already waiting for you. You don't need to upgrade to the latest version to get the free updates with Arturia, which is what I really appreciate about them.

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SHall1000 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:45 am Yes! So much stuff now. I just remembered I have two rotary plugins I have never used. :roll:
Hehe. But it’s not only that there’s so much stuff now, it’s that the quality is so damn high, if you buy right. Even a lot of smaller developers deliver mindblowing stuff nowadays. And by now we all know that buying a marginally different plugin won’t make anyone’s music any better. :hihi:

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I am on the $99 deal and really only want Fragments so will probably give it a miss. But I am impressed with the plugins of their's I already own

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They so need to put this in some sort of 'rack' now so combinations of these fx can be saved as one patch....
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SHall1000 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:45 am
nanostream wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:09 am
jamcat wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:58 am LX-24 is worth the $49 alone.
Maybe, but probably only if you don’t own any other reverbs.
Yes! So much stuff now. I just remembered I have two rotary plugins I have never used. :roll:
I wonder how many of us this applies to? I got all the T Racks stuff last year in some 20p upgrade. I've installed about 4 I think, because I have so much other good stuff that covers everything. I have the UAD 244, I have... well, pretty much everything.

$99 is a great crossgrade price, no grumbles at all, they're a terrific company but it remains pointless for me. The one Arturia effect I have bought was Fragments because I didn't have a standalone granular effect. Great. What's the point of getting another 100 versions of great effects that I already have equally great or better versions of?
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bmanic wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:04 pm .. as for the Rotary plugin. It really is quite nice. When used very subtly (dry/wet set to about 5%) you can get some awesome subtle motion and transient dulling on sources. This can be very effectively used to push back instruments into the mix. Sort of what I've been doing with FabFilter Saturn once in a while, slowly moving the various cross overs, saturation and EQ nodes with slow(ish) random LFOs, then make it super wide in mid/side mode and finally mix that subtly in with the dry signal.

The preamp section is also really characterful and sounds awesome on various sources. My only gripe with that part is the high amount of highs that are cut. Every signal gets really muddy by default, which suites some sources but not all. Wish it was possible to get higher bandwidth out of it.
Very helpful thanks!

Bit of a noob question, but if you are making club/dance music, and they say clubs have mono systems, will this rotary plug work in those systems?

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SLiC wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:44 am They so need to put this in some sort of 'rack' now so combinations of these fx can be saved as one patch....
Exactly, this would make FX Collection perfect.

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SLiC wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:44 am They so need to put this in some sort of 'rack' now so combinations of these fx can be saved as one patch....
Yeah I've suggested an FX version of Analog Lab before to them.

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M_Ray wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:44 am
bmanic wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:04 pm .. as for the Rotary plugin. It really is quite nice. When used very subtly (dry/wet set to about 5%) you can get some awesome subtle motion and transient dulling on sources. This can be very effectively used to push back instruments into the mix. Sort of what I've been doing with FabFilter Saturn once in a while, slowly moving the various cross overs, saturation and EQ nodes with slow(ish) random LFOs, then make it super wide in mid/side mode and finally mix that subtly in with the dry signal.

The preamp section is also really characterful and sounds awesome on various sources. My only gripe with that part is the high amount of highs that are cut. Every signal gets really muddy by default, which suites some sources but not all. Wish it was possible to get higher bandwidth out of it.
Very helpful thanks!

Bit of a noob question, but if you are making club/dance music, and they say clubs have mono systems, will this rotary plug work in those systems?
You can easily check your mix in mono by using a mono maker vst (usually every daw has something like that) to see if the track collapses somehow or things sound weird.
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SLiC wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:44 am They so need to put this in some sort of 'rack' now so combinations of these fx can be saved as one patch....
This would indeed be absolutely wicked awesome! Their catalogue is now large enough for extremely creative multi-FX combos. I mean, I've already done this within Reaper itself but it would be much easier to manage in a single plugin. This is basically what I wanted to use DDMF Metaplugin for but the usability of Metaplugin is so archaic and slow that it's a nightmare to manage many plugins within it.

If Arturia would make a Rack type plugin, with extra envelopes, EVFs and LFOs it would be absolutely killer!
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aMUSEd wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:53 pm
SLiC wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:44 am They so need to put this in some sort of 'rack' now so combinations of these fx can be saved as one patch....
Yeah I've suggested an FX version of Analog Lab before to them.
I just hope they don't screw it up like they did Analog Lab. It has some huge issues where you can't properly save individual plugins presets within Analog Lab if you browse through the various presets. It's really weird and probably a bug (reported it to Arturia but never got reply).

Analogue Lab could also be a whole lot more interesting if they made it sort of modular with some extra LFOs and envelopes.. but I realize that could would be a huge update and probably not feasible for them to go that route.
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M_Ray wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:44 am Bit of a noob question, but if you are making club/dance music, and they say clubs have mono systems, will this rotary plug work in those systems?
You can always use the rotary plugin on a send and then make sure that lower frequencies are made mono. There are plenty of free plugins for this, or just use any of your EQ plugins that have mid/side capabilities and put a simple HPF filter on the side channel.

For tight bass response you usually want to keep stuff below 100Hz mono.. though it's not really a "rule". If you have good enough monitoring you can create mixes that have super wide bass that still works just fine in clubs. It just has to be sort of phase coherent (meaning all the bass frequencies push in the same direction and don't cancel each other out).
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