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SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Sat May 20, 2023 3:53 pm

I'm interested in getting an MC-101 to use as a compact Roland ROMpler. Are the Zen-Core effects decent? I'm particularly interested in the quality of the delay and reverb algorithms. Are they comparable to the algorithms in Boss pedals?

FranklyFlawless · Post by **FranklyFlawless** » Sat May 20, 2023 5:32 pm

Roland owns BOSS, so I do not see much of a reason to believe algorithms on one is inferior to the other.

SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Sat May 20, 2023 9:13 pm

FranklyFlawless wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 5:32 pm Roland owns BOSS, so I do not see much of a reason to believe algorithms on one is inferior to the other.

Yes, that’s what I was thinking. I’m wondering if some of the code in Zen-Core effects is recycled from Boss or other Roland products.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Wed May 24, 2023 2:53 am

SonicDimension wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 9:13 pm
FranklyFlawless wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 5:32 pm Roland owns BOSS, so I do not see much of a reason to believe algorithms on one is inferior to the other.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking. I’m wondering if some of the code in Zen-Core effects is recycled from Boss or other Roland products.

The majority of the zen core effects are recycled effects fromthe rompler range + some new additions .
Just download the manual of any roland rompler between 1995 and now and compare .
FOr example the pitch shifter effect which is found on al the roland rompler , it can vary in quality , the xv5080 pitch shifter is superior to the integra pitch shifter etc..( integra uses smaller buffers for transposing ) etc...

Ex Machina · Post by **Ex Machina** » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:25 am

SonicDimension wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 9:13 pm Yes, that’s what I was thinking. I’m wondering if some of the code in Zen-Core effects is recycled from Boss or other Roland products.

From what I can tell, the "new" Zen-core effects are mostly taken from the XV-5080 which means they are far from cutting edge. This makes sense because Zenology Pro is essentially a software XV-5080 with a few extra filter options, really bad sounding VA and Supersaw oscillators, and the same dated sample ROM from 25 years ago.

But at least you now get a few decent sounding reverbs to add to your Zenology patches.

SonicDimension · Post by **SonicDimension** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:47 pm

Ex Machina wrote: From what I can tell, the "new" Zen-core effects are mostly taken from the XV-5080 which means they are far from cutting edge. This makes sense because Zenology Pro is essentially a software XV-5080 with a few extra filter options, really bad sounding VA and Supersaw oscillators, and the same dated sample ROM from 25 years ago.

But at least you now get a few decent sounding reverbs to add to your Zenology patches.

Thanks for that information.

Roland Zen-Core Effects Quality?