Emulations we are still missing 2023 edition

[zerocrossing]

Thats the thing i dont care about brasses and other typical sounds, but i got the view most of the guys care about those.

Dune 3, Rapid, Hive, Massive X can do 4 oscillators at once. Also add to the list Avenger, Viper and Spire.

You can mimic feedback with a distortion in the filter. But indeed that one is tricky because its a rare that a distortions sound as great as analog.

As far as i know PhasePlant can do audio rate mod when filters are in effects section. Also you can have it poly aswel.

You are totally wrong.

And how i am wrong?

In the classical sense of making incorrect statements.

[kritikon]

If he's trying to be the new BONES there are 2 issues:
1. Too nice to be a new BONES, not aggro enough.
2. The old BONES is still around. Think he'll have something to say about being replaced...

[BBFG#]

Something in my psyche believes that synthesizers are best when its oscillators are in odd numbers.

1,3,5 or 7.

9 is a more magiackal number.

Absolutely! I just left that open so it came from someone else's mouth.

[Lbdunequest]

Thats the thing i dont care about brasses and other typical sounds, but i got the view most of the guys care about those.

Dune 3, Rapid, Hive, Massive X can do 4 oscillators at once. Also add to the list Avenger, Viper and Spire.

You can mimic feedback with a distortion in the filter. But indeed that one is tricky because its a rare that a distortions sound as great as analog.

As far as i know PhasePlant can do audio rate mod when filters are in effects section. Also you can have it poly aswel.

You are totally wrong.

And how i am wrong?

In the classical sense of making incorrect statements.

So please tell me those incorrect statements. So far they are all right and without argument you cant say i am wrong. I told you what you said wrong and i proved, you said im wrong but you didnt proved just acting like a child

[zerocrossing]

i too like the evolvers, but where they a universally loved product? as in, guaranteed to sell lots of licences? or are they more cultish?

A bit cultish yeah. Maybe not as much as the Buchla - and that found its way to the V Collection so you really never know.

Looking back it feels like the Evolver marked the point when developers started to move back to hardware again after years of plugin-mania.

It’s definitely a bit cultish, but you’re right, it did harken the trend of analog and hybrid hardware comeback that we’re currently enjoying. Also, like some proto-mammal, it branched off into many sub species. A smart emulation of the Evolver could also be a MoPho, Prophet ‘08, Tempest and REV2.

cheers
like i said, don't really follow media, and the only synth people i know is you lot, here in my home town what i do, is akin to witchcraft to some of my friends. they mostly stopped listening to music around justice for all... or at least anything new, just the same old rehashed rock and metal.
synths and drum machines are the work of the devil.

they don't quite have who's side the devil is on right, but all the headbanging probably messes you up at 50.

and of that list, id say the prophet is the one most around here (kvr) mention. which is why i wondered if evolver was worthwhile from a devs pov, saleswise.

Yeah, why I suggested doing something like a “Prophet ULTRA” that covered a bunch of Dave’s Curtis based synths made in the 00s. I mean, I’m sure the Evolver sold more units than something like an EMS Synthi, but it came at a different time, and it didn’t have someone like Pink Floyd making some epic track from it, so it never got the same attention. The ‘08 was easier for people to understand and carries the name of other classic synths, so that would help in the marketing. It used the same chips as the Evolver, so you have the filter and DCOs. The LFOs and envelopes are all software anyway. So, by making an Evolver emulation, you basically have a Prophet 08, since it’s just a subset/rehash of a lot of what is in the Evolver.

[Uncle E]

You can mimic feedback with a distortion in the filter. But indeed that one is tricky because its a rare that a distortions sound as great as analog.

Make a capture of it in TONEX. The distortion will sound exactly the same. I made a library like this for IK (just waiting for them to work out the licensing system so I can release it) and it worked great.

[zerocrossing]

Thats the thing i dont care about brasses and other typical sounds, but i got the view most of the guys care about those.

Dune 3, Rapid, Hive, Massive X can do 4 oscillators at once. Also add to the list Avenger, Viper and Spire.

You can mimic feedback with a distortion in the filter. But indeed that one is tricky because its a rare that a distortions sound as great as analog.

As far as i know PhasePlant can do audio rate mod when filters are in effects section. Also you can have it poly aswel.

You are totally wrong.

And how i am wrong?

In the classical sense of making incorrect statements.

So please tell me those incorrect statements. So far they are all right and without argument you cant say i am wrong. I told you what you said wrong and i proved, you said im wrong but you didnt proved just acting like a child

You’re so wrong, I’m not going to even bother wasting my time going though it again, but if three oscillators is the same as 4 oscillators to you, and you don’t understand the difference between a unison oscillator and a full separate oscillator, then you’re going to need a full bottom up education, and I just don’t have that kind of time. I encourage you do start studying the differences between synthesizers, because you clearly don’t understand it on anything beyond a basic level.

That’s fine, really. There’s lots of things I don’t care about either. Brown alcohol, for instance. I hate it, and I couldn’t tell you the difference between whisky or bourbon, much less a well brand whisky vs. an aged peat filtered whatever. I don’t like any of them, and I don’t care.

But I also don’t go on whiskeyaficionado.com and start telling members that the bottle I got from Costco is the same as their favorite high priced bottle. I could explain to them that they both have the same alcohol content and get you just as drunk, but I’d be clueless about the actual differences, and seem dumb. You seem dumb to me. I know you’re not, but that’s how willful ignorance often appears. It’s fine to just say you don’t care about the difference between synths, so I’d try that if I were you.

[zerocrossing]

You can mimic feedback with a distortion in the filter. But indeed that one is tricky because its a rare that a distortions sound as great as analog.

Make a capture of it in TONEX. The distortion will sound exactly the same. I made a library like this for IK (just waiting for them to work out the licensing system so I can release it) and it worked great.

See, here we go. If you think a filter with distortion is the same as actual feedback, even if the distortion is captured/modeled perfectly, then you do not understand what feedback actually sounds like.

[Uncle E]

Something in my psyche believes that synthesizers are best when its oscillators are in odd numbers.

1,3,5 or 7.

You must love Supersaws.

[Uncle E]

But I also don’t go on whiskeyaficionado.com and start telling members that the bottle I got from Costco is the same as their favorite high priced bottle.

The funny thing is people do exactly this on alcohol aficionado sites (not whiskeyaficionado.com, that doesn't exist ). René Girard would say this is related to mimetic rivalry. We want what we can't have and so we go after those who have it.

[Uncle E]

See, here we go. If you think a filter with distortion is the same as actual feedback, even if the distortion is captured/modeled perfectly, then you do not understand what feedback actually sounds like.

Oh, I'm sure you're right, I'm just offering a cool way to emulate a portion of what Evolver has to offer.

[Ah_Dziz]

Most of the tools I'd like to see cloned are digital and had an amazing sound and workflow. The sounds of analog are not super sought after by myself and I can build something if I really feel I need it, but an insanely accurate Nord modular G1 and G2 that would run with full recall and no cables would make my day. Also having kyma port their DSP over to run inside a plugin along with their nifty interface would be super rad.

Honestly I'm as happy as I've ever been with the state of sound generating tools.

[zerocrossing]

See, here we go. If you think a filter with distortion is the same as actual feedback, even if the distortion is captured/modeled perfectly, then you do not understand what feedback actually sounds like.

Oh, I'm sure you're right, I'm just offering a cool way to emulate a portion of what Evolver has to offer.

Now we just need to find someone who is willing to make captures of an Evolver at various drive and feedback settings. It won’t be the same, but I bet it would be cool anyway.

[Uncle E]

Now we just need to find someone who is willing to make captures of an Evolver at various drive and feedback settings. It won’t be the same, but I bet it would be cool anyway.

One cool thing about Tonex is it reacts to the input volume you give it. I've found that (with guitar amps, at least) I don't need to capture every gain level, I just need to capture the maximum gain level and then turn down the input level. I'd be happy to do it if I had an Evolver, it only takes a few minutes of set up time (the computer has to work on it for hours but that's all automatic).

[BBFG#]

Something in my psyche believes that synthesizers are best when its oscillators are in odd numbers.

1,3,5 or 7.

You must love Supersaws.

Actually don't care for them much at all. And in the realm of 7 and 9, those seem most suited toward the algorithmic operators. I really don't understand why any developer limits their plugin with a 4 op engine. I've been hoping a bit for Biotek to add 1-3 more to correct that weakness.