Hey guys, is there a better (even payed, not subscription) alternative to Audacity for recording and editing dialogue (for youtube videos) ?
My workflow is simple but i am not sure i am using the highest quality engine as Audacity:
1. record my sm7b into Audacity as 24bit/96khz
2. add few real time vst3 effects (gate, corrective eq, preamp/eq, comp/limiter) - all with oversampling to 4x
3. render to 24bit wav for importing into Davinci Resolve Studio.
Davinci is cool but the workflow is a bit complicated than Audacity.
Is there any software much higher quality than Audacity but still similar in simplicity with vst support..? Thanks !
Better alternative than Audacity for dialogue ?
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
You're going to have to state much more specifically what you're talking about when you say 'much higher quality.'
You seem to be saying you're already working at 24bit/96KHz, which would be way more than good enough in terms of the digital audio.
You seem to be saying you're already working at 24bit/96KHz, which would be way more than good enough in terms of the digital audio.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 4 posts since 11 Apr, 2023
Uhm, i thought Audacity uses a 32bit float internal engine while other editors and davs use 64bit.. (?).
So i should just settle for Audacity if 24bit/96khz from my audient evo 4 interface is enough ?
So i should just settle for Audacity if 24bit/96khz from my audient evo 4 interface is enough ?
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Some DAWs can do 64-bit float processing. Not that you'd ever be able to reliably identify the difference in real life, of course.aindless wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:14 am Uhm, i thought Audacity uses a 32bit float internal engine while other editors and davs use 64bit.. (?).
But if the majority of your actual audio processing is those VST3 plugins, then its probably kind of irrelevant anyway.
And that's before you even remember the notion that this is for youtube videos.
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- KVRian
- 926 posts since 24 Sep, 2016
Ocenaudio is pretty cool. don't know if this is what u need though.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
In terms of 'quality,' though, it aint gonna change the very-much-weakest link in the chain, ie youtube.3lu5iv3 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:23 am Ocenaudio is pretty cool. don't know if this is what u need though.
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- KVRian
- 679 posts since 29 Dec, 2019
Just use the free DaVinci Resolve. You only need the Fairlight Page for podcasting, so you can ignore the rest. You can even hide the other tabs if you want, and just treat it like an Audio App. That's literally how Resolve is designed to be used. Putting everything in a single housing is just a convenience.
It isn't that hard to use, and nothing free or cheap is as good as it for what you're looking for.
If you have one of those Humble Bundled VEGAS Pro licenses, then you can use that as well.
WaveLab, Sound Forge, Acoustica, Samplitude Pro X (maybe even Music Studio) and other products are all good for this. Most DAWs are good for this. REAPER is probably a great choice for Podcasting, and even the free Cakewalk is usable. When I went to Chicago to set up a friend (they were starting a podcast), I used Cakewalk to record, edit and bounce everything... and it's what I set them up with.
It isn't that hard to use, and nothing free or cheap is as good as it for what you're looking for.
If you have one of those Humble Bundled VEGAS Pro licenses, then you can use that as well.
WaveLab, Sound Forge, Acoustica, Samplitude Pro X (maybe even Music Studio) and other products are all good for this. Most DAWs are good for this. REAPER is probably a great choice for Podcasting, and even the free Cakewalk is usable. When I went to Chicago to set up a friend (they were starting a podcast), I used Cakewalk to record, edit and bounce everything... and it's what I set them up with.
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- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
A 32 Bit internal engine is more than good enough. It's just dialogue, not a 100+ track project with large manipulations of audio.aindless wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:14 am Uhm, i thought Audacity uses a 32bit float internal engine while other editors and davs use 64bit.. (?).
So i should just settle for Audacity if 24bit/96khz from my audient evo 4 interface is enough ?
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Vocalpoint Studios Vocalpoint Studios https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3112 - KVRian
- 894 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
Concur with all the comments so far - dialog simply does not require what you are throwing into the mix here.
For a real world comparison - I voice national ads, multimedia, training videos - you name it - for clients across North America and I send mono 192KBPS MP3 from Studio One for all my work.
Not a single client has ever said - "wow your dialog sounds substandard".
Remember - this is voiceover here - not an Atmos mix of Steely Dan's Gaucho.
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For a real world comparison - I voice national ads, multimedia, training videos - you name it - for clients across North America and I send mono 192KBPS MP3 from Studio One for all my work.
Not a single client has ever said - "wow your dialog sounds substandard".
Remember - this is voiceover here - not an Atmos mix of Steely Dan's Gaucho.
VP
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- KVRAF
- 7099 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Words of reason....whyterabbyt wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:31 amIn terms of 'quality,' though, it aint gonna change the very-much-weakest link in the chain, ie youtube.3lu5iv3 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:23 am Ocenaudio is pretty cool. don't know if this is what u need though.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 4 posts since 11 Apr, 2023
I do own Davinci Resolve Studio but Fairlight is a bit wonky in the workflow. Thanks a lot for the other recommendations, i will research them !Trensharo wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:59 am Just use the free DaVinci Resolve.
If you have one of those Humble Bundled VEGAS Pro licenses, then you can use that as well.
WaveLab, Sound Forge, Acoustica, Samplitude Pro X (maybe even Music Studio) and other products are all good for this. Most DAWs are good for this. REAPER is probably a great choice for Podcasting, and even the free Cakewalk is usable. When I went to Chicago to set up a friend (they were starting a podcast), I used Cakewalk to record, edit and bounce everything... and it's what I set them up with.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 4 posts since 11 Apr, 2023
Thanks for the reassurance. I am going to look into Studio One aswellVocalpoint Studios wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:00 pm Concur with all the comments so far - dialog simply does not require what you are throwing into the mix here.
For a real world comparison - I voice national ads, multimedia, training videos - you name it - for clients across North America and I send mono 192KBPS MP3 from Studio One for all my work.
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- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
It's just a waste of time to look at all sorts of other DAW options. Just use Audacity as you have been. The quality is a non-issue.aindless wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:53 pmThanks for the reassurance. I am going to look into Studio One aswellVocalpoint Studios wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:00 pm Concur with all the comments so far - dialog simply does not require what you are throwing into the mix here.
For a real world comparison - I voice national ads, multimedia, training videos - you name it - for clients across North America and I send mono 192KBPS MP3 from Studio One for all my work.
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- KVRAF
- 13798 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
+1 ^^^ that ^^^ and everyone else who essentially concurs with ^^^ that ^^^.
Researching the requirements/recommendations:
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Researching the requirements/recommendations:
https://tubeast.com/understanding-youtu ... it-matters
https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... 0?hl=en-GB
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- KVRAF
- 1711 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
Sound quality should really be nearly identical, no matter which daw you use. What will change is the work flow. If you're used to Audacity, and get good results, there's nothing wrong with that. If you're bored with Audacity and want to learn something new, there's nothing wrong with that either. Knock yourself out. The sound won't likely change, but the way you get there will. You may find it more enjoyable to work in a different daw. The only way to know is to try. Have fun!