KVR Audio

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:24 am

HcDoom wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:31 pm Imagine that you can draw your own LFOs and ENVs in this beast...maybe one day?

I deliberately did not include multipoint envelope editors since they aren't very musical in the sense you can't play with a few controls and get a music result straight away, they tend to encourage programming and fiddling around a lot. I leave that sort of thing to DAW automation, and external modulation plugins. For example you can use the FM input (stereo sidechain) to add any number of extra LFOs, step sequencers, and envelopes via any external plugin that can generate DC coupled "control voltage" type signals - for example the Volta or the Expert Sleepers plugins.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:07 am

Glad to hear things are going well, Andy. Love your plugins. Have you had any time to work on more compressors? My ChanComp went tits up Big Sur/M1 along with a lot of other FXP stuff and was looking forward to your new take on it.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:21 am

masterhiggins wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:07 am Glad to hear things are going well, Andy. Love your plugins. Have you had any time to work on more compressors? My ChanComp went tits up Big Sur/M1 along with a lot of other FXP stuff and was looking forward to your new take on it.

Sorry to hear the FXpansion stuff stopped working for you. I will work on some more compressors in the future, but it will be some way off yet, so I recommend picking up one of the many 1176 models out there now.

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:54 pm

I wonder how the cutoff frequency of the filters is specified, is it -3dB point?
And how the peak point in the resonant filter relates to a filter frequency?

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:29 am

meloco_go wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:54 pm I wonder how the cutoff frequency of the filters is specified, is it -3dB point?
And how the peak point in the resonant filter relates to a filter frequency?

The cutoff is tuned so that when the filter just self oscillates with 100% resonance it is tuned to the cutoff frequency. Because of the large number of non-linearities the actual frequency of self oscillation depends on the resonance. For Sallen Key and SVF when in 2 / 4 pole mode they are roughly -6dB / -12 dB gain at the cutoff frequency, since they are two / four one poles and each one pole has -3 dB attenuation at cutoff. For Cascade filters like the Moog and Jupiter the position of the -6 / -12 dB point is different since the global feedback loop behaves differently to the other filters.

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:44 pm

Thank you!

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:58 pm

andy-cytomic wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:29 am
meloco_go wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:54 pm I wonder how the cutoff frequency of the filters is specified, is it -3dB point?
And how the peak point in the resonant filter relates to a filter frequency?
The cutoff is tuned so that when the filter just self oscillates with 100% resonance it is tuned to the cutoff frequency. Because of the large number of non-linearities the actual frequency of self oscillation depends on the resonance. For Sallen Key and SVF when in 2 / 4 pole mode they are roughly -6dB / -12 dB gain at the cutoff frequency, since they are two / four one poles and each one pole has -3 dB attenuation at cutoff. For Cascade filters like the Moog and Jupiter the position of the -6 / -12 dB point is different since the global feedback loop behaves differently to the other filters.

Hi Andy,
When will VST3 be added?
It's been a long time now.
Thanks.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:41 am

andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:21 am
masterhiggins wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:07 am Glad to hear things are going well, Andy. Love your plugins. Have you had any time to work on more compressors? My ChanComp went tits up Big Sur/M1 along with a lot of other FXP stuff and was looking forward to your new take on it.
Sorry to hear the FXpansion stuff stopped working for you. I will work on some more compressors in the future, but it will be some way off yet, so I recommend picking up one of the many 1176 models out there now.

Damn I didn't even see your response until now. I'll be first in line. That tiny bias dial did so much to change its character. It was like morphing through different compressors with a single knob. So damn cool.

andi75 · Post by **andi75** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:35 pm

Anyone else having issues with the license currently? Even their site appears to be down.

Edit: Nevermind, appears to be an issue with my Fritz Box...

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:31 pm

simmo75 wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:58 pm Hi Andy,
When will VST3 be added?
It's been a long time now.
Thanks.

Once the final manual, presets, and video tutorials and audio examples are done for The Scream work will commence on updating to the latest version of the Juce framework, which will allow VST3 and Apple Silicon native builds.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:48 pm

I've finished updating The Glue to the latest Juce7 framework, and with that adding support for Apple Silicon and VST3. This work took around a month and I'm happy with the results - there were a bunch of old minor issues that are now fixed with Juce which is great.

I'll also update The Drop with the same support, but there is a bit more work involved as most of the filters in The Drop will need updating to use my latest DSP framework.

If everything goes well it takes about 1/2 day per filter circuit to re-solve and test, and there are around 40 filters in The Drop as most have different circuits for high and low pass, and there are the HD and MD circuits for each filter, so that's around 20 full working days work, which is just under a month to update the filters alone. It could be quicker or slower depending on how it goes, but I just wanted to let people know what's involved.

Before work will commence on porting The Drop I really have to finish off The Scream, which is already using the latest DSP framework and needs final packaging including writing the manual, doing presets, audio examples, videos etc.

Septic Underground · Post by **Septic Underground** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:48 am

andy-cytomic wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:48 pm I've finished updating The Glue to the latest Juce7 framework, and with that adding support for Apple Silicon and VST3. This work took around a month and I'm happy with the results - there were a bunch of old minor issues that are now fixed with Juce which is great.

I'll also update The Drop with the same support, but there is a bit more work involved as most of the filters in The Drop will need updating to use my latest DSP framework.

Much appreciated, The Drop is one of the last plugs that is not native silicon compatible for me.
Next week I will migrate from a MP2019 to a MS-2023Ultra, it will be more than welcome as I have set a requirement of native silicon support to make the transfer/install to the new system.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:49 am

Update: I've added VST3 support, and added native Apple Silicon support to The Drop. I'll release a new beta in the next week. This also includes a bunch of possible bug fixes in the Juce framework since I've updated to using the latest version of that as well.

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:29 am

great news! stoked for these updates.

audiouser720 · Post by **audiouser720** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 11:30 am

Sorry if this has already been answered but will the SSM2040 model from VCV be implemented into The Drop sometime in the future?

Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter