Reason Studios: Soon discontinued authorization for Reason versions 1-11

[LaLivre]

Hey Anosou I’ll give you 10 bucks if you can make LaLivre’s offline activation only last like 15 minutes before having to check in online again.

DM me your Cash App lol.

[Anosou]

Hi Anosou, I have another question to add to the other two.
I am trying to install Codemeter on osVentura, but can’t install because “cannot check it for malicious software” (I downloaded from Reason Studios last week, but pop-up says “software needs to be updated” help!

Get in touch with support about this, I'm afraid I'm not a good person to help out here.

[imrae]

It occurs to me that there will be people keeping a copy of Reason 10 around (which they paid good money for) to use Rewire. There are lots of things Rewire can do that the Rack Plugin cannot.

If they buy a new laptop now, they won't be able to use Rewire on a plane, will they?

Feels like downgrade after downgrade...

[_antic604_]

It occurs to me that there will be people keeping a copy of Reason 10 around (which they paid good money for) to use Rewire. There are lots of things Rewire can do that the Rack Plugin cannot.

If they buy a new laptop now, they won't be able to use Rewire on a plane, will they?

Feels like downgrade after downgrade...

They're removing support for off-line authorization for v11 and earlier (codemeter thingy), so it will work until it's no longer compatible with your OS and/or hardware.

It's not complicated to understand.

[imrae]

Right, and those people paid for offline authentication, so that's not great.

I was highlighting a use-case that isn't helped by upgrading to the newest version.

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That, and, you know, not handing out the software for basically free.

Right. Now that i think about it, it would be better if RS do what NI do with Kontakt. Have the rack freely downloadable with just a few modules ie Subtractor, Maelstrom, basic mixer and some effects and sell the rest as REs along with Refills. This way no authorization is needed, just buy what you want at the RS site.
As far as audio, they should change it to an Audio Recorder extension that one needs to buy to add audio recording capabilities.
So each audio track is added by loading a recorder module (which automatically adds an audio lane on the sequencer).
Same for VST. Buy the VST module extension that can load VSTs.
I feel this route makes things less complicated and gives RS A better opportunity for somewhat steady income on an annual basis considering better opportunity for more customers with the free rack. Right now, next generation musicians cant even try reason without paying.

[festeringheap]

Hi Anosou, I have another question to add to the other two.
I am trying to install Codemeter on osVentura, but can’t install because “cannot check it for malicious software” (I downloaded from Reason Studios last week, but pop-up says “software needs to be updated” help!

Get in touch with support about this, I'm afraid I'm not a good person to help out here.

Ok.
Can you touch on my other question, as I'm not currently on 12.6

2. Reason have traditionally encrypted all contents of a song file, relying on the copy protection system to decrypt them. Because of the new offline solution, we we were finally able to remove the song file encryption that we’ve had since Reason 6

Point 2…does this mean you can access audio files within a project? Or is everything still locked into a .reason file?

Thanks.

[jlgrimes11]

Hi Anosou, I have another question to add to the other two.
I am trying to install Codemeter on osVentura, but can’t install because “cannot check it for malicious software” (I downloaded from Reason Studios last week, but pop-up says “software needs to be updated” help!

Get in touch with support about this, I'm afraid I'm not a good person to help out here.

Ok.
Can you touch on my other question, as I'm not currently on 12.6

2. Reason have traditionally encrypted all contents of a song file, relying on the copy protection system to decrypt them. Because of the new offline solution, we we were finally able to remove the song file encryption that we’ve had since Reason 6

Point 2…does this mean you can access audio files within a project? Or is everything still locked into a .reason file?

Thanks.

I think Reason still embeds audio in its project file. On the plus side though, it is much harder to lose audio files when you swap a computer but it can get tedious if you do alot of alternate projects.

That said they have export functions for sending audio files to another DAW.

[festeringheap]

Hi Anosou, I have another question to add to the other two.
I am trying to install Codemeter on osVentura, but can’t install because “cannot check it for malicious software” (I downloaded from Reason Studios last week, but pop-up says “software needs to be updated” help!

Get in touch with support about this, I'm afraid I'm not a good person to help out here.

Ok.
Can you touch on my other question, as I'm not currently on 12.6

2. Reason have traditionally encrypted all contents of a song file, relying on the copy protection system to decrypt them. Because of the new offline solution, we we were finally able to remove the song file encryption that we’ve had since Reason 6

Point 2…does this mean you can access audio files within a project? Or is everything still locked into a .reason file?

Thanks.

I think Reason still embeds audio in its project file. On the plus side though, it is much harder to lose audio files when you swap a computer but it can get tedious if you do alot of alternate projects.

That said they have export functions for sending audio files to another DAW.

Yeah, the great thing about Reason is that you have a self-contained file for everything in your project.

The crappy thing about Reason is that you have self-contained files that have everything in your project.

I always suspected that the reason it takes forever to load up a .reason file with a ton of audio files is that it has to stream the audio out in chunks linearly from the file, whereas with Reaper, for instance, it can access all the audio files at the same time from a folder and dump them into your session. It's like night and day when accessing a new project between the two.
Maybe the "decryption" changes this somehow - hopefully Anosou chimes in on that.

The other crappy thing about embedding everything in a .reason file, is that if you make one tiny change and save that version, you have another mega gigabyte .reason file. They need to give users a "versions" system when you can save a tiny change without a huge-ass storage footprint.
(maybe the decryption changes that too).

Well, you can export audio files, but you still have to load up a .reason file to access. Would be good to simply open a folder to access.

[Anosou]

Point 2…does this mean you can access audio files within a project? Or is everything still locked into a .reason file?

It's still in a .reason file. I'm not technical enough to answer this in depth to be honest, but not encrypting user-made musical data is something that'll be better for both users and our devs going forward.

[festeringheap]

Point 2…does this mean you can access audio files within a project? Or is everything still locked into a .reason file?

It's still in a .reason file. I'm not technical enough to answer this in depth to be honest, but not encrypting user-made musical data is something that'll be better for both users and our devs going forward.

Well, I figured you have access to all the great minds at ReasonStudios. Hopefully you can pass along to your devs if this change will allow a "versions" mode, where one tiny change will not result in another humongous .reason file. Would be great.