Anukari Synthesizer: Sound through the laws of physics

[neverbefore]

really neat implementation - love how you can interact with the model itself
wish list - sorry if you have these already - modify the materials of the masses and springs so that the masses might wood or rock etc nd the springs made similarly. It may be that your implementation of a mass does not allow that easily in which case being able to modify directly (and automate ) the density and elasticity of the materials would be great

[Funky40]

I don't think adding actual adsr settings makes sense for controlling how the masses vibrate, though.

i had more sort of a "clamping down" in mind.
"ADSR" was just a common term i used, in lack of any better. It was just to give a picture

please check my post again :

(AD, ADSR,...or more sophisticated)
apply envelopes ( or whatever) to change the behave over time.

i don´t know what exactly would be suited.
something interactive maybe ? ...but adjustable.

at least, it triggers the phantasy

[zerocrossing]

I don't think adding actual adsr settings makes sense for controlling how the masses vibrate, though.

i had more sort of a "clamping down" in mind.
"ADSR" was just a common term i used, in lack of any better. It was just to give a picture

please check my post again :

(AD, ADSR,...or more sophisticated)
apply envelopes ( or whatever) to change the behave over time.

i don´t know what exactly would be suited.
something interactive maybe ? ...but adjustable.

at least, it triggers the phantasy

Right, but I’m saying hit those strings with a bow so you can get a sustained sound.

[Shabdahbriah]

Fascinating!!!

[anukari-music]

Thank you all for the continued discussion and ideas. This is incredibly helpful, and everything that shows up in this thread is going in my notes. Some of it I have planned already, and I'm seeing the comments here as votes for which things to prioritize first. And some of the ideas never occurred to me -- I can't believe I hadn't head of MPE yet, for example. I'm so glad to have found this forum!

[Ah_Dziz]

This looks really really cool. Adding input envelope followers or midi triggerable adsrs that can dynamically change the properties of the system and then maybe a simple amplifier stage with controllable gain at the "mic outputs" would allow for some very nice control over even very chaotic systems. I'm very excited to see where this goes. Let me know if you need testers please. Best of luck.

[zerocrossing]

Thank you all for the continued discussion and ideas. This is incredibly helpful, and everything that shows up in this thread is going in my notes. Some of it I have planned already, and I'm seeing the comments here as votes for which things to prioritize first. And some of the ideas never occurred to me -- I can't believe I hadn't head of MPE yet, for example. I'm so glad to have found this forum!

We’re the coolest.

[Yadrichik_Chaya]

The fact that it not only a unique synth but also an effect is amazing!

The interaction feature as an effect will basically make it possible
to ”play” something else over any audio you feed it.

One very simple example:
Feed it a percussion loop in effects mode and then make a counter rhythm with interaction over that loop, IMHO this is a way more fun type of automation, or for spicing up audio, than Shaperbox. The best part is that it will sound organic(!) and probably also unlike anything we've ever heard.

To be able to use bowing action on the audio being fed will open up endless explorations. Maybe Anukari bowed vocals will be the successor to the Autotune vocal effect? Just kidding, but I'm really getting tons of ideas that I can't wait to try when I get my hands on it!

[Artie Fichelle]

Hi, this is great news. If possible, do an implementation of microtuning. Theere are billions of poeple out there, that listen to other scales and tunings than in Western music. And an easy way to implent seems to be at oddsound.
"The MTS-ESP library is a simple but versatile C/C++ library for adding microtuning support to audio and MIDI plugins. It allows for a single master plugin to simultaneously control the tuning of any number of connected client plugins across a DAW session. Connection between a master and clients is automatic and invisible.

kind regards, Artie

[Yadrichik_Chaya]

Hi, this is great news. If possible, do an implementation of microtuning. Theere are billions of poeple out there, that listen to other scales and tunings than in Western music. And an easy way to implent seems to be at oddsound.
"The MTS-ESP library is a simple but versatile C/C++ library for adding microtuning support to audio and MIDI plugins. It allows for a single master plugin to simultaneously control the tuning of any number of connected client plugins across a DAW session. Connection between a master and clients is automatic and invisible.

kind regards, Artie

+1 for both microtonality (and MPE)

[EnsoLake]

Hi, this is great news. If possible, do an implementation of microtuning. Theere are billions of poeple out there, that listen to other scales and tunings than in Western music. And an easy way to implent seems to be at oddsound.
"The MTS-ESP library is a simple but versatile C/C++ library for adding microtuning support to audio and MIDI plugins. It allows for a single master plugin to simultaneously control the tuning of any number of connected client plugins across a DAW session. Connection between a master and clients is automatic and invisible.

kind regards, Artie

+1 for both microtonality (and MPE)

+2

[FrogsInPants]

If possible, do an implementation of microtuning.

In a way, microtuning appears built-in, in that it looks like the system has to be tuned manually by tweaking the physical parameters of the springs and bodies. And to have multiple notes, it appears you need to create and tune multiple subsystems and assign their excitable masses to different note numbers. (Or perhaps I have misunderstood what I saw in the video.) Before anything like MTS-ESP makes sense, you need not only a way to clone subsystems, but to specify parameter transformations that will shift the resonant frequencies of the subsystem in a controllable way. For dynamic retuning with MTS-ESP, and for MPE, you would need to apply those transformations dynamically, and to avoid cloning a complex subsystem across they entire keyboard you would probably want to combine this dynamic retuning with voice assignment to a user-controllable number of these subsystems.

This all ought to be possible in principle, but I think Evan has some interesting problems to solve if he wants to mix such a tunable voice system with the kind of custom assignment of note numbers to excitation positions that he has now. That also has interesting possibilities for designing physical models, and could be extended in other interesting ways like adjusting specific node properties by note number, for instance to change the pitch by clamping specific nodes. I think both avenues are worth pursuing, but they do seem somewhat at odds.

[anukari-music]

In a way, microtuning appears built-in, in that it looks like the system has to be tuned manually by tweaking the physical parameters of the springs and bodies. And to have multiple notes, it appears you need to create and tune multiple subsystems and assign their excitable masses to different note numbers. [...]

This all ought to be possible in principle, but I think Evan has some interesting problems to solve [...]

You are correct on both counts! This is a very challenging aspect of the GUI design, in terms of how to make it easy to get good results in terms of easily mapping MIDI notes to specific desired pitches. It's of course in principle possible today to do any tuning you want, but as you note, it's a ton of work, and not particularly user-friendly. I have some ideas about algorithms to automatically tune selected structures to given pitches, and if I can get this to work well, it could automatically copy a structure N times and tune them to whatever scale the user wants. I'll definitely take into account microtuning when I get to that point.

Of course, I should include the caveat that I'm not sure what will go into the first release. It's possible that I get something out the door before this is all implemented, if I'm confident that it's useful "enough" without it. But I see several votes here for microtuning, so...

[jbraner]

This looks interesting!
So, will you post something here when there is a demo to try out?

[anukari-music]

This looks interesting!
So, will you post something here when there is a demo to try out?

You bet! It might be a while though, so I hope you're patient.