KVR Audio

qtheerearranger · Post by **qtheerearranger** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:11 pm

there is a sale on PA that says any plugin for 29.99 but i go to use it with kirchoff eq and it wont let me. am i dumb it says any plugin?

escalona · Post by **escalona** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:14 pm

In PA language "any plugin" means "any plugin we decide it´s ok to sell to you at that price".
They have a list of available plugins you can buy at that price (which are worth exactly half that much... because in many occasions throughout the year you will able to buy any of them at $15 or less). Then they have the list of the ones that are not included.

qtheerearranger · Post by **qtheerearranger** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:20 pm

rip i shoulda guessed as much. ty for the response

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:23 pm

There's nothing in the "any plugin" sale that I want. All the good stuff is excluded (as usual).

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:55 pm

It says in the emails they send out which plug ins are excluded from a sale/coupon etc. always read the fine print

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:42 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see that the list got extended in a couple days...

MadDogE134 · Post by **MadDogE134** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:03 pm

par for the course

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:34 pm

Tough crowd. PA products are pretty good IMHO. People like to winge especially about audio. Objectively they are decent tools especially if you use @96k or more. The earlier products were considered top tier. But as prices erroded, PA got on that bandwangon and devalued their products, for better and worse. They also increased their marketing and spin which annoys a lot of people, especially those engineering minded which is most of their customers. Like a lot of over-self-hyping plugin companies these days its good to ignore the marketing but learn what they mean by "all plugins on sale" and take into account the errosion of prices and more irritated customer base. As mentioned "Any Plugin..." means from all their plugins except those exluded which is listed at the end of the email or page. If you try and learn to live with all the BS you can then better enjoy tools and options from these companies. But they are also a good source if you like to complain all the time in threads (seems to be a sport now). Enjoy.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:01 am

It clearly states:

These products are NOT included: ADPTR AUDIO Metric AB, AMEK Mastering Compressor, Brainworx bx_masterdesk PRO, Dear Reality dearVR PRO, Lindell 69 Series, NEOLD U2A, Schoeps Mono Upmix, Three-Body Technology Kirchhoff-EQ

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:49 am

Eh, actually wanted to get Kirchoff with the code Native Instruments sent me...

Guess not.

Dirtgrain · Post by **Dirtgrain** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:26 am

jamcat wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:01 am It clearly states:

These products are NOT included: ADPTR AUDIO Metric AB, AMEK Mastering Compressor, Brainworx bx_masterdesk PRO, Dear Reality dearVR PRO, Lindell 69 Series, NEOLD U2A, Schoeps Mono Upmix, Three-Body Technology Kirchhoff-EQ

It didn't state it at all in the email.

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:14 pm

It did in mine...

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But kinda shitty to actually emphasise ANY in all caps when that's not the case at all.

musicproducerdee · Post by **musicproducerdee** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:24 pm

Whey they say any plugin, they really mean "any plugin that nobody wants" or "any plugin that's already $29.99 at least once every two or three weeks, or any plugin that's like 10 years old.

As for the plugins you really want, like the flagship quality stuff, like Kirchoff EQ, sorry, can't have that.

audio/fault · Post by **audio/fault** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:01 pm

it just takes some time until the plugins are included in the 29$ sales. usually 6-12 months after release.

Dirtgrain · Post by **Dirtgrain** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:35 pm

Oh it is in my email--but it is in dark at the bottom with the Native Instruments address, gray, smaller font with black background. I retract my previous statement and say instead that this is not at all "clearly" stated.

PA Sale cant use coupon on kirchoff?