CLIPPER - which ones can you recommend?
- KVRAF
- 5551 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Just tried quite a few. Standrd clip, Glip, and KClip.
Late: KClip sound just like Standard Clip in hardclip mode, after some audiotion. Will go for the cheaper one.
Melda Saturator did a great job, but input and output are not linked, too much hassle.
Added: I don´t know if I set the ToneBooster Barricade wrong at first time or the new update fixed that (released today), but know Barricade sounds identical to the other top clippers.
Late: KClip sound just like Standard Clip in hardclip mode, after some audiotion. Will go for the cheaper one.
Melda Saturator did a great job, but input and output are not linked, too much hassle.
Added: I don´t know if I set the ToneBooster Barricade wrong at first time or the new update fixed that (released today), but know Barricade sounds identical to the other top clippers.
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- KVRist
- 283 posts since 9 Dec, 2018
For oversampling the manual states "All input modeler modes use internal oversampling to eliminate aliasing. The amount of oversampling is determined automatically based on the sample rate of the input signal and the settings of the input modeler."Igro wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:25 amThanks, i missed the hard clip option on it. In fact, i'm not looking at the soft clipping at all.MattLeschuck wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:24 pm
Barricade has clipping, compression and limiting. You can see the threshold for clipping in the picture on the left. And you can see at the bottom there is a drop down menu to set hard clip, soft clip, and many others.
Clipper.png
Lets see how this compares to others. I don't believe that Barriacade has extreme oversampling options (it doesn't have that choice at all)
- KVRAF
- 5551 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Thank you for the info!MattLeschuck wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:05 pmFor oversampling the manual states "All input modeler modes use internal oversampling to eliminate aliasing. The amount of oversampling is determined automatically based on the sample rate of the input signal and the settings of the input modeler."Igro wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:25 amThanks, i missed the hard clip option on it. In fact, i'm not looking at the soft clipping at all.MattLeschuck wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:24 pm
Barricade has clipping, compression and limiting. You can see the threshold for clipping in the picture on the left. And you can see at the bottom there is a drop down menu to set hard clip, soft clip, and many others.
Clipper.png
Lets see how this compares to others. I don't believe that Barriacade has extreme oversampling options (it doesn't have that choice at all)
I decided to use what I already own - Melda MBSaturator. It turned out that its hard clipping mode sounds absolutely identical to the KClip and Satandard Clip.
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 24 Sep, 2019
You can also use your (already owned) MCompressor. it can function as an AWESOME clipper (or, as Jon V. coined it : an "almost-clipper") with some added bonuses (and it makes we wonder out loud why people keep on buying xxx$ clippers when there are such good alternatives - FOR FREE - beneath their legs. but that's just me...). ReaComp and HAMMER are also good candidates.Igro wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:29 pm I decided to use what I already own - Melda MBSaturator. It turned out that its hard clipping mode sounds absolutely identical to the KClip and Satandard Clip.
- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Kush Omega TWK for that GOLDEN 70's clip 
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- KVRist
- 310 posts since 18 Apr, 2019
Underrated post! Thanks for sharing.dionenoid wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:43 pm Yeah it's been said a few times before ; clippers all sound the same. Pretty much all of them actually null with each other when the same oversampling settings and values are used.
I have a few clippers, but mostly use Standardclip. It's lightweight, has plenty of options, very deep oversampling options, good visual feedback, and is simply reliable.
It's no use spending 100 or 200 bucks on a clipper, as it will sound identical to cheaper ones or freebies. But take care with free ones that have no oversampling ; they will cause dc offset and aliasing, as that's inherent to the process of clipping.
If you want more control over the sound when clipping, there's a few tricks that are far more important than the choice of clipper itself :
- use an eq before the clipper ; to subtly control which frequencies are touched by the clipper more. Most 'emulations' do this inside the plugin, making ppl hear 'magical' things.
- use a transient tool or expander before the clipper ; gives more control over the effect that a clipper has on your sound. Some clippers are based on this technique.
But anyway, clipping itself is a simple mathematical thing and unlike compressors, eq's or other fx, has no 'sound' or 'magic' going on. But devs will go to great length to make you believe otherwise. And consequently many users will fall for the marketing bs and actually go on forums defending their choice, despite many blindtests and null-tests proving otherwise.
Groeten
- KVRAF
- 8588 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
^^ This is true if your clipper is a simple one that only does clipping, pretty much all of the ones I use add something else to the mix, saturation, different types of distortion, crossovers etc. 
- KVRAF
- 3799 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Millicent Australia
This is me showing absurd overmastering with Peak Eater. It is free and while a bit quirky 9at time of testing) a very useful tool.
Clipping does change the overall perceived sound with a more "meaty" balance and overtones but I three agree that with only clipping, all other things being equal, there is no secret sauce. A few Devs pretend that there is, and mostly that is simply a sure sign that they are filthy fibbers - which of course makes me question everything else they do.
Benedict Roff-Marsh
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
- KVRAF
- 8588 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I like the BSA Clipper as well tho I would probably not buy it for anywhere near full price.
Seems like this clipper was also authored by Yum Audio interestingly...
*It is on sale atm here
Seems like this clipper was also authored by Yum Audio interestingly...
*It is on sale atm here
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
I'll echo Newfangled / Eventide Saturate. I like the fact that it can be used as a typical soft or hard clipper on a master, but has lots of shaping options in between hard and soft, as well as symmetrical/asymmetrical curve shape for a range of harmonic flavors that make it an equally great saturator. Anti-aliasing and auto gain are nice. A great all-around either/both clipper and saturator. Replaces the need for multiple plugins if you dig deep enough into it.
