Ooh, I like This Modular Rack...
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
if you have many guitar fx or other outboard, the doepfer crossover thing i always forget the name of is worth grabbing! 10 or so hp and gets your outer, inner!
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
a 138 d cfx 
- KVRAF
- 11325 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Though I’ve never tried it, I think the preamp on the 2600 provides enough gain to process guitar and any line level inputs.vurt wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:03 pm if you have many guitar fx or other outboard, the doepfer crossover thing i always forget the name of is worth grabbing! 10 or so hp and gets your outer, inner!
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I use an Erica Synths Link module I got second hand for £25, it’s passive so can convert 1/4” jack signal to 3.5mm or vice versa.


LINK is the module that bridges eurorack to destop mixers — it has 5 sections that attenuate eurorack signals to line level signals and send them to 6,3mm jacks for quality connection to the mixer. The module is 8HP wide.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
is that input only?elxsound wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:09 pmThough I’ve never tried it, I think the preamp on the 2600 provides enough gain to process guitar and any line level inputs.vurt wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:03 pm if you have many guitar fx or other outboard, the doepfer crossover thing i always forget the name of is worth grabbing! 10 or so hp and gets your outer, inner!
the module i mention, you can send a line signal out to teh pedal, so eg oscillator/fuzz pedal/reverb pedal/back in to modular/filter and so on....
- KVRAF
- 11325 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Good point. Sorry, was just thinking of getting the signal in, but not back out again to the instrument signal path.vurt wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:02 pmis that input only?elxsound wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:09 pmThough I’ve never tried it, I think the preamp on the 2600 provides enough gain to process guitar and any line level inputs.vurt wrote: Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:03 pm if you have many guitar fx or other outboard, the doepfer crossover thing i always forget the name of is worth grabbing! 10 or so hp and gets your outer, inner!
the module i mention, you can send a line signal out to teh pedal, so eg oscillator/fuzz pedal/reverb pedal/back in to modular/filter and so on....![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
I checked out a few of these oscillators.foosnark wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:31 pm Honestly for your situation Plaits seems like a good way to go. What works for me is pretty far from low HP
I do have a Noise Engineering Legio (6HP), and I think pretty well of Virt Iter Legio (stereo oscillator with phase modulation). It'd probably serve you well too. But now I have the Roucha Legio firmware on mine, a great sounding filter/wavefolder, and that's probably going to stick.
Up from there, Kermit mk2 and Ataraxic Iteritas are both 10HP. Kermit is a dusty-sounding, digital/glitchy but "soft", dual wavetable oscillator (with just one, fixed bank). I love the sound but it's a pretty specific character (though also a useful LFO). Ataraxic is more of a glitch and noise machine, and is hard to recommend in general unless it happens to be exactly what you're looking for.
Next step up is Just Friends at 14HP. It's frankly amazing and I could recommend it to anyone. As a VCO, it's a swarm of 6 of them with unison detuning (up to 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x the base frequency or down to /2, /3, /4, /5, /6) and individual and mix outputs. The Curve knob knob takes it from pulse to tri/saw to sine to wavefolding, and Shape affects the relative skew (rise/fall) or PWM. And it has TZFM, either external or internal. Combine those things and it's pretty potent. It also is a fantastic modulation source, and if you have Monome Teletype you can reprogram the oscillator ratios and mix levels, or put it into a polysynth mode.
I also have Synchrodyne at 14HP. Not sure I could recommend it generally -- a wide-range saw VCO combined with the world's weirdest filter design (switched-capacitor filter, clocked by a PLL driven by that same VCO). Very experimental and hard to tame. Fun though, and sometimes a high-rate VCO is useful for clocking other things.
Above that I jump to 26HP with Shapeshifter and Odessa, and then Spectraphon at 36HP (still waiting on shipping) and Akemie's Castle at 38HP (which will probably be displaced by Spectraphon, though I love it). These are all powerhouse oscillators that would absolutely bring something new to a 2600 if you can spare the space for them.
The Odessa and Just friends are certainly interesting. The Odessa seemed interesting but I guess it takes quite a bit of work to find the sweet spots. Just friends will remain on my radar, but also maybe a bit too complex for a starter.
Kermit has some nice possibilities but yes, too soft and digital sounding for my taste.
I went for a wavetable osc with balls and immediacy instead : Erica Synths Wavetable osc. As they state themselves, this digital osc sounds pretty analog with a fat sound with balls
By the way, if you do like the Plaits route there is the 8 part Oxi instruments Coral, which is pretty new. It s a bit like having 8 instances of Plaits in one module. Interesting to check it out.
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- KVRian
- 1272 posts since 13 May, 2015
Juno refunded me for the wonky Wasp filter without the option to replace it, so in a rash moment a got a Joranalogue Filter 8 instead. Very pleased with it so far. Lots to play with.
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
don't have it, but it does sound nice
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Erica synths is offering their Black Dual Multimode VCF at half price on their website.
Amazing piece of gear. I couldn t resist.
Amazing piece of gear. I couldn t resist.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
I m working towards this.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2290081
I might change my way along the way, but this looks interesting.
As you can see, i ve become a big fan of Erica synths. All the Erica synths modules in the rack are already coming my way. As they are currently having sales, I could do some sweet deals.
My black sequencer will go in a separate 3U rack.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2290081
I might change my way along the way, but this looks interesting.
As you can see, i ve become a big fan of Erica synths. All the Erica synths modules in the rack are already coming my way. As they are currently having sales, I could do some sweet deals.
My black sequencer will go in a separate 3U rack.
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Looks like a great rig. You might have trouble finding that fourplay from Behringer I have one and was going to buy another but they don't even show up in the Sweetwater catalog or anywhere else in the US. I am in Canada but I order through the US frequently. Consider the Behringer Abacus as a drop in replacement for the Maths as it is shipping and will be in stores in August. I like the front panel of the Abacus a lot better than the obscure looking fonts on the Maths.
Stefken wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:12 pm I m working towards this.
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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2290081
I might change my way along the way, but this looks interesting.
As you can see, i ve become a big fan of Erica synths. All the Erica synths modules in the rack are already coming my way. As they are currently having sales, I could do some sweet deals.
My black sequencer will go in a separate 3U rack.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
ThxScotty wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:22 pm Looks like a great rig. You might have trouble finding that fourplay from Behringer I have one and was going to buy another but they don't even show up in the Sweetwater catalog or anywhere else in the US. I am in Canada but I order through the US frequently. Consider the Behringer Abacus as a drop in replacement for the Maths as it is shipping and will be in stores in August. I like the front panel of the Abacus a lot better than the obscure looking fonts on the Maths.
I already have the four play. They are in short supply, but I did find them on gear4music.
That might be a valuable option for you too.
https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-an ... m3EALw_wcB
If the Abacus is better, i might get it. Design is also something i consider in my rack so i might get a black faceplate for the Pamela Pro Workout, so all modules fit within the black theme.
I m also thinking to get the Behringer Chaos (= Marbles clone). I would put it next to my black sequencer, so my bottom rack would be my sequencer section. The Black sequencer is more of groovebox kinda of sequencer while the Chaos would bring more of a non-traditional sequencing flavor.
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
nice looking rig.
the 4ms oscillator looks interesting, youll have to let us know how you get on with it
the 4ms oscillator looks interesting, youll have to let us know how you get on with it
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I have a Marbles clone (the After Later Pachinko), but I don’t much like the sequences it generates. I have an Enigma applet in Ornament and Crime which is pretty much a Turing Machine clone and I feel it sounds a lot more musical. What I’m doing more and more now though is feeding the eurorack generative sequences from VCV Rack via a MIDI-CV module (I use a Mutant Brain) and it vastly increases the scope for experimentation being able to bring in an endless amount of modules like Grids for drums, more Turing Machines, Branches, Bursts, scale quantisers for melodies. It’s all still very hands on as I send MIDI parameter settings via a 16n Faderbank. For the cost of one or two ‘prime’ hardware units you get a near infinite number of combinations of funky pseudo randomisers and ‘proper’ sequencers when you want them too.Stefken wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:42 pm I’m also thinking to get the Behringer Chaos (= Marbles clone). I would put it next to my black sequencer, so my bottom rack would be my sequencer section. The Black sequencer is more of groovebox kinda of sequencer while the Chaos would bring more of a non-traditional sequencing flavor.