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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:42 pm I signed up for a month in order to switch and still get the error. Emailed support and they said they had discontinued that ability to switch. But the trash icons are still there, you just get an error.
I wonder when it was changed?.. That's disappointing to hear.
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Weird. I've changed stuff a few times, but come to think of it - I might have been on an active sub at the time.
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Can anyone confirm if the Sound Canvas plugin is VST3 compatible now? On the Roland site it doesn't say it is, but I know many of their plugins have added VST3.

Edit: Nevermind, I checked the thread and it sounds like it will (hopefully) arrive as an update.

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Hey everyone! Jon from Roland Cloud here.

I am pleased to share with everyone, Aphelion. A new patch collection for the JUPITER-8 by revered sound designer Espen Kraft. This collection features 64 dark, vibey and cosmic patches. Which to me is a sound quintessential to the JUPITER-8's legacy.

Apehlion is included with Pro and Ultimate memberships of Roland Cloud or available to purchase as a Lifetime Key.
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https://www.rolandcloud.com/news/new-pa ... 8-aphelion
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Ok thanks Jon. I will add them to the weekly soundpatch list and discuss it with the team. Cheers!

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I wonder if there's any difference between Zenology Pro with all SRX to the 1080/5080 plugins and individual SRX plugins. Are there any ommissions? Because I consider the Zenology route for this vintage stuff (I know it has additional contemporary capabilities)

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PAK wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:49 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:42 pm I signed up for a month in order to switch and still get the error. Emailed support and they said they had discontinued that ability to switch. But the trash icons are still there, you just get an error.
I wonder when it was changed?.. That's disappointing to hear.
:(
Very much so... On the one hand this is how I always thought the system worked in the first place, on the other hand reading the first replies here and having the delete icon there I have now locked my last key on a synth I really didn't want that much, thinking I could switch it later. I had intentionally saved the key since 2021 and future use if Roland released something new. Poop.

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It would be great to have a search presets function in all the instruments.
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tristan- wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:26 am I wonder if there's any difference between Zenology Pro with all SRX to the 1080/5080 plugins and individual SRX plugins. Are there any ommissions? Because I consider the Zenology route for this vintage stuff (I know it has additional contemporary capabilities)
They're close, but the SRX/5080 series had more advanced capabilities, including reverb. The Zenology Pro equivalent have the same waveforms, and sound pretty close. If you compare the "Dance" expansion, you can hear the difference from the first patch. Also, Zenology is missing maybe 100-200 patches from the entire collection (not sure why).

I know Zenology has reverb now, but the XV patches haven't been updated to take advantage of it.

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thenumber23 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:19 pm
tristan- wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:26 am I wonder if there's any difference between Zenology Pro with all SRX to the 1080/5080 plugins and individual SRX plugins. Are there any ommissions? Because I consider the Zenology route for this vintage stuff (I know it has additional contemporary capabilities)
They're close, but the SRX/5080 series had more advanced capabilities, including reverb. The Zenology Pro equivalent have the same waveforms, and sound pretty close. If you compare the "Dance" expansion, you can hear the difference from the first patch. Also, Zenology is missing maybe 100-200 patches from the entire collection (not sure why).

I know Zenology has reverb now, but the XV patches haven't been updated to take advantage of it.
That is what is bothering me when it comes to the Zenology Pro Presets.

They used Adsr Release as a replacement for Reverb on most of their presets which gave many of the presets a mushy sound when you play Chords or play fast riffs making the release tail fight for attention.

I noticed this when i tried to compare Zenology Pro with Roland MV-1 with the same presets in a song.

I could'nt figure out why every sound got washed out and did'nt have the punch that the MV-1 had and then i noticed The heavy use of Release on those presets and when i turned that down and added Reverb they sounded the same.

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I hear Espen Kraft makes the cheesiest presets.

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D-Fusion wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:31 pm
thenumber23 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:19 pm
tristan- wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:26 am I wonder if there's any difference between Zenology Pro with all SRX to the 1080/5080 plugins and individual SRX plugins. Are there any ommissions? Because I consider the Zenology route for this vintage stuff (I know it has additional contemporary capabilities)
They're close, but the SRX/5080 series had more advanced capabilities, including reverb. The Zenology Pro equivalent have the same waveforms, and sound pretty close. If you compare the "Dance" expansion, you can hear the difference from the first patch. Also, Zenology is missing maybe 100-200 patches from the entire collection (not sure why).

I know Zenology has reverb now, but the XV patches haven't been updated to take advantage of it.
That is what is bothering me when it comes to the Zenology Pro Presets.

They used Adsr Release as a replacement for Reverb on most of their presets which gave many of the presets a mushy sound when you play Chords or play fast riffs making the release tail fight for attention.

I noticed this when i tried to compare Zenology Pro with Roland MV-1 with the same presets in a song.

I could'nt figure out why every sound got washed out and did'nt have the punch that the MV-1 had and then i noticed The heavy use of Release on those presets and when i turned that down and added Reverb they sounded the same.
Jon at Roland wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:58 pm Hey everyone! Jon from Roland Cloud here.
Hi Jon,

can this issue be fixed? in the next version of Zenology Pro, updating the SRX/JV/XV presets to take advantage of the reverb instead of release so they will sound as they should?

Thank you.

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ChamomileShark wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:09 pm Jon said that once your P4L subscription is over you can no longer change your lifetime key. That's different from before, I remember seeing all you needed to do was sign up for a paid plan for a month and change it over.
What happens if I don’t renew my Play4Life Ultimate sub before redeeming my two Loyalty keys? There are several years of posts here indicating that’s fine and you can still redeem them with your free account any time, but if Roland has seemingly made changes to how this works, I’d like to know now.

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ToddlerTN wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:31 am What happens if I don’t renew my Play4Life Ultimate sub before redeeming my two Loyalty keys? There are several years of posts here indicating that’s fine and you can still redeem them with your free account any time, but if Roland has seemingly made changes to how this works, I’d like to know now.
That still works, I just did it yesterday thinking I could play around with the D-50 and then change it to something else. But as I would find out that last part about switching doesn't work anymore, so just make sure you redeem the exact synth you want. Or keep the key in your account for future use, which is what I was doing. No need for an active subscription.

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I’ve been comparing the JV-1080 and XV-5080 VSTs, and the display on the XV-5080 seems to have a bug. The bank name and patch name write to the same part of the screen, rendering the text illegible. The same converted banks on the JV-1080 don’t have that problem. Surely this has been reported to Roland. I’m new here, but this must be a known issue, right?
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