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Rends · Post by **Rends** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:22 pm

Watched a couple of Amiga tracker videos on YouTube.
Let me thinking what vst could came close to replicate that sound.
Found 3 vst that can do vintage sample sound but not sure if they do sound like an Amiga or close in the Ballpark:
Plogue Chipcrusher
D16 Decimort2
Waves Retrofi
I prefer an Amiga preset but not sure if there is any.
And before dl the trial version i would like to hear your opinions

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:33 pm

ToneBoosters Time Machine is free and has an Amiga preset. You can find the download links for the free bundle containing it at the bottom of this page. It's part of TrackEssentials.

You can give it a try and see if it gets you the sound you're after. With trackers the samples were often pitched up to save on valuable RAM and then pitched down on playback. This contributed to the crunchiness people like. I'm not sure if this can be replicated with these kind of effects but maybe someone with more experience can comment about that.

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:39 pm

D16 Decimort2 has the Paula preset, which meant to be the Amiga.

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:26 am

It is not possible to properly recreate the sound of the Amiga by adding an insert effect which works on a sum of the signal.
To properly do it you needed to recreate each one of the 4 hardware voices of the chip. It was able to play back (short) looped samples with 8 bit. The pitch of the samples was changed in a different way than what common sample-players do it these days. The Amiga (and other samplers in the 90s) did not use cubic spines or linear interpolation. Instead they changed the clock-rate of the chip. For a proper Amiga sound this needs to be emulated for all 4 voices individually. So you need an 'Amiga synthesizer' plugin.

pamier242 · Post by **pamier242** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:17 pm

FWIW there are some archives of old Soundtracker samples on the web that are pretty easy to find. The first 2 archives have the really old stuff. I was suprised to find that a lot of those were taken from the D-50.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:34 pm

Rends wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:22 pm Watched a couple of Amiga tracker videos on YouTube.
Let me thinking what vst could came close to replicate that sound.

https://16-bits.org/pt2.php

Get closest to it, Amiga Protracker clone. Read a bit about the documentation. You can drop a sample into the window, it will go to selected sample number slot. Use keyboard to play samples (read all the .txt files in the package, alternatively watch tutorials at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... SKNQNf6lTc ).

Basically drop sample in, try hitting fex. r -key on your keyboard

I know it is not a VST, but you can sample output into your DAW usually quite easily via your audiocard routing. Or then sequence the samples in the tracker, render output etc. etc.

You can also drop a mod. (or .mod) file into it to learn how to sequence

MrJubbly · Post by **MrJubbly** » Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:58 pm

I also recommend the ProTracker clone in the previous post. There is also a FastTracker II clone from that same website which is also great.

You can find many of the "st-xx" Public Domain samples that were originally used in the late 80s/early 90s Amiga music tracker modules on the archive dot org website.

https://archive.org/details/AmigaSoundt ... 192HzTuned

Also, a nice free and easy-to-use bitcrusher plugin is available from Kilohearts.

https://kilohearts.com/products/bitcrush

As part of their free 'Kilohearts Essentials' plugin bundle, which is well worth checking out.

https://kilohearts.com/products/kilohearts_essentials

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:11 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:26 am It is not possible to properly recreate the sound of the Amiga by adding an insert effect which works on a sum of the signal.
To properly do it you needed to recreate each one of the 4 hardware voices of the chip. It was able to play back (short) looped samples with 8 bit. The pitch of the samples was changed in a different way than what common sample-players do it these days. The Amiga (and other samplers in the 90s) did not use cubic spines or linear interpolation. Instead they changed the clock-rate of the chip. For a proper Amiga sound this needs to be emulated for all 4 voices individually. So you need an 'Amiga synthesizer' plugin.

this would be awesome a VST which sounds/samples and plays back like the Amiga 500 etc. this is really missing and there is nothing like that. sad that you wont make new VSTs, this would be a great VST as you seem to have the knowledge

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legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:04 am

Caine123 wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 7:11 pm
Markus Krause wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:26 am It is not possible to properly recreate the sound of the Amiga by adding an insert effect which works on a sum of the signal.
To properly do it you needed to recreate each one of the 4 hardware voices of the chip. It was able to play back (short) looped samples with 8 bit. The pitch of the samples was changed in a different way than what common sample-players do it these days. The Amiga (and other samplers in the 90s) did not use cubic spines or linear interpolation. Instead they changed the clock-rate of the chip. For a proper Amiga sound this needs to be emulated for all 4 voices individually. So you need an 'Amiga synthesizer' plugin.
this would be awesome a VST which sounds/samples and plays back like the Amiga 500 etc. this is really missing and there is nothing like that. sad that you wont make new VSTs, this would be a great VST as you seem to have the knowledge .

I asked eightbitbubsy - the coder of pt-clone and ft2-clone - about vst3 of pt-clone with multiouts... his answer was ":<" on IRC so... maybe not happening

skyscape · Post by **skyscape** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:31 am

Plogue Chipsounds has a bunch of Amiga samples in there. If you want real authenticity use Redux by Renoise and rip a bunch of instruments from old modules.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:43 pm

Redux does not do what Amiga Paula output does...

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:15 pm

http://www.preromanbritain.com/ymvst/

This is not Amiga but Atari. I've used it in the past & it's the real deal. Do not know if it works with todays software.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:38 am

Yeah, definately not Amiga

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:38 am

About a month ago I was lucky enough to a receive an Amiga 500 from my brother. It brings back a lot of great memories I have from the early to mid-90's I used to have an A2000 back then with a lot of cool software for it.

I didn't have a monitor and speakers setup for it yet when I took this photo.

Amiga 500.jpg

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:48 pm

skyscape wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:31 am Plogue Chipsounds has a bunch of Amiga samples in there.

I was thinking it would be a great project for Plogue to do an actual Amiga emulation

What vst gives me the Amiga samples vibes?