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vurt wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:01 pm nice looking rig.
the 4ms oscillator looks interesting, youll have to let us know how you get on with it :)
It s not in my rig yet. I ll let you know.

I opted out of the spectraphon (I got the Erica Synths Black Wavetable, Sample Drum and Black dual multimode filter for pretty much the same price so I m not complaining :wink: ).
The 4ms will bring additive synthesis back in my rig with all the chords stuff that it brings.

I really like that the ensemble osc is both good at mellow ambient and hardcore industrial.
The designer (Matthias Puech) made the conscious decision as to not limit its ranges so it can really go wild.

I aspecially liked this video from Blush response showing off its wild character.
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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:22 pm
Stefken wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:42 pm I’m also thinking to get the Behringer Chaos (= Marbles clone). I would put it next to my black sequencer, so my bottom rack would be my sequencer section. The Black sequencer is more of groovebox kinda of sequencer while the Chaos would bring more of a non-traditional sequencing flavor.
I have a Marbles clone (the After Later Pachinko), but I don’t much like the sequences it generates. I have an Enigma applet in Ornament and Crime which is pretty much a Turing Machine clone and I feel it sounds a lot more musical. What I’m doing more and more now though is feeding the eurorack generative sequences from VCV Rack via a MIDI-CV module (I use a Mutant Brain) and it vastly increases the scope for experimentation being able to bring in an endless amount of modules like Grids for drums, more Turing Machines, Branches, Bursts, scale quantisers for melodies. It’s all still very hands on as I send MIDI parameter settings via a 16n Faderbank. For the cost of one or two ‘prime’ hardware units you get a near infinite number of combinations of funky pseudo randomisers and ‘proper’ sequencers when you want them too.
Thanks. I ll keep that in mind.

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I like my Sinfonion for messing with generated sequences. Seems they are like $1200 now tho, geez.

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So here is a question. I wonder how people do FX send in modular? In a DAW you can do tons of fx inserts if you want to, but in modular one is typically limited to the number of FX units at your disposal, so a send-return makes sense.
So how do people deal with this, sending channels in different amounts to say a reverb as you don t want equal amounts of reverb on all channels.
I must say i have hardly noticed any construction like that in the rigs i have seen or i haven 't noticed.

(I am also steering my modular in a selfcontained direction, that is my modular can do it all by itself. So i have sequencing, drums, ... all integrated in my rig. I contemplated using an external mixer, and using external drums etc but i kinda like that it is all integrated).

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Some eurorack mixers do have FX sends. Check out the Tesseract Modular Tex Mix range, you buy a master unit and extend it with extra mono and/or stereo mixer units.



My setup is hybrid so I do all effects in the DAW, even my hardware effects are via DAW send/return.
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There are mixers with sends/returns out there, if you want that.

My modular workflow tends to be that in-modular FX are part of the 'voice' not the mix, except maybe for an ITB reverb on the final stereo output.
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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:53 am Check out the Tesseract Modular Tex Mix range
Yeah, Ive been thinking about them myself, definitely flexible, and good bang for the buck, especially DIY.

But would mean another case.

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Stefken wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:20 am I wonder how people do FX send in modular?
One of the big performance mixers that has FX sends, or a matrix mixer, or mults/stacking cables and smaller mixers/crossfaders.

A regular 4x4 matrix mixer would give you two mono inputs for dry signals, and a stereo return. There are also stereo matrix mixers though.


I don't tend to do sends, but sometimes the whole mix goes through FX (maybe after my recording session, maybe baked in).

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:22 pm What I’m doing more and more now though is feeding the eurorack generative sequences from VCV Rack via a MIDI-CV module (I use a Mutant Brain) and it vastly increases the scope for experimentation
By the way, Erica Synths is not paying me or anything, but they have taken over the production of Mutant Brain to prevent it from dying out since Hexinverter Électronique closed up shop.

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whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:58 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:53 am Check out the Tesseract Modular Tex Mix range
Yeah, Ive been thinking about them myself, definitely flexible, and good bang for the buck, especially DIY.

But would mean another case.

Oh the dalailamma.
I briefly thought about getting some and reusing a Behringer skiff I have, think that would make a decent case for those.

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Stefken wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:12 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:22 pm What I’m doing more and more now though is feeding the eurorack generative sequences from VCV Rack via a MIDI-CV module (I use a Mutant Brain) and it vastly increases the scope for experimentation
By the way, Erica Synths is not paying me or anything, but they have taken over the production of Mutant Brain to prevent it from dying out since Hexinverter Électronique closed up shop.
Something I really like is that in the sysex editor for Mutant Brain you can set up triggers to fire based on different notes on a particular received midi channel, great way to send drum triggers to rack from a DAW drum sequencer. It’s very flexible.

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:53 am Some eurorack mixers do have FX sends. Check out the Tesseract Modular Tex Mix range, you buy a master unit and extend it with extra mono and/or stereo mixer units.
Wow, at first this looked like a highend/expensive solution but these modules are very affordable and are well thought out. Good bang for the buck :tu:
They even have a VCA with cv input so you can use it to build your voice too.

I m liking this. :tu:

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Yeah it's a shame for those of us in the UK that the pound went down the drain because Tesseract was crazy cheap for a while, but they're still relatively inexpensive.

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When I want to use FX sends, I often use a matrix mixer or I just use mults and simple mixers. If I mult my sound sources to two separate mixers, one is routed to my FX and the other is the main mix. I usually record effected audio separately but you can also connect the output of an effect to the main mix. Some simple mixers have an unattenuated 'Aux' input, which can be used as a return just for that kind of thing. I use VC crossfaders if I want wet/dry mix, instead of send/return.
This is part of the reason I've never had a large dedicated audio mixer in my rack, but I always have a bunch of simple audio/CV mixers.

A while back I got an Autodub from Steady State Fate, which I like a lot. It makes it easy to have voltage control over a stereo send's level, which can otherwise require a lot of modules.

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i do more insert style.
often sound source/fx/ (x however many)/mixer then a final stereo delay.

i don't do so much different tracks mix style stuff, more just one sound that has everything in it bubbling around.
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