Arturia V Collection 10. Predictions.

[dlandis]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

If you're game, check out Jan's The First Seven Days. I still listen to this occasionally. It is not at all like the Miami Vice theme, FWIW. It does have a ton of influences from ethnic to jazz to classical to rock. He was the only musician on most of it (and he plays pretty solid drums on it as well on one or two pieces.)

[vurt]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

If you're game, check out Jan's The First Seven Days. I still listen to this occasionally.

thanks, yeah im game, i shall have a look for it and give it a listen

[BBFG#]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

Try Mahavishnu Orchestra first. But I think the reference might be according to his early interviews where he stated his iconic sound was not a specific patch and that he (JH) depended more on the outboard gear and mimicry of his favorite guitar players. His better solo albums are Like Children, Seven Days, Oh Yeah and Melodies... Before he went TV ala Miami Vice. I think Oh Yeah is probably my fav along with those three M-Orchestra albums.

[vurt]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

Try Mahavishnu Orchestra first. But I think the reference might be according to his early interviews where he stated his iconic sound was not a specific patch and that he (JH) depended more on the outboard gear and mimicry of his favorite guitar players. His better solo albums are Like Children, Seven Days, Oh Yeah and Melodies... Before he went TV ala Miami Vice. I think Oh Yeah is probably my fav along with those the MOrchestra albums.

ah, i didnt realise he had been around long before miami vice. i figured that was his thing!

seven days as its mentioned twice now looks like the starting point

[BBFG#]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

Try Mahavishnu Orchestra first. But I think the reference might be according to his early interviews where he stated his iconic sound was not a specific patch and that he (JH) depended more on the outboard gear and mimicry of his favorite guitar players. His better solo albums are Like Children, Seven Days, Oh Yeah and Melodies... Before he went TV ala Miami Vice. I think Oh Yeah is probably my fav along with those the MOrchestra albums.

ah, i didnt realise he had been around long before miami vice. i figured that was his thing!

seven days as its mentioned twice now looks like the starting point

Seven Days is more "ambient/soundtrack" in it's early beginnings. Oh Yeah is more Fusion Jazz. There are two or three under the "Hammer" band name where he explored his new found guitar synth sampling sound he gathered from his time with Jeff Beck. A little more of standard rock/pop but they grow on you.

[jamcat]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

I don’t know anything more than you do about Jan Hammer. But I’m sure you recall that people (or at least kids) were amazed by how he made a synth sound like a guitar. There was nothing special about the synth voice. It was all technique.

The point being that a good performance can be very convincing even regardless of the sound source. People will accept a lot at face value if the presentation is convincing.

[vurt]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

I don’t know anything more than you do about Jan Hammer. But I’m sure you recall that people (or at least kids) were amazed by how he made a synth sound like a guitar.

nope, i wasnt even aware he had?
are we saying people thought it sounded like a guitar on the miami vice theme?
ill have to have a proper listen to this sometime, i can barely recall it tbh, as i say, i was but a child.

[edinabdedj]

We need drums vst

[jamcat]

Anyways, if you do a song with Arturia’s clavinet or e.piano, no one is going to think twice if it’s really the realest real instrument or not, so long as it’s a good song. Production values vary so greatly throughout recorded history, that whatever you put out using Arturia isn’t going to stand out as any different than what people are used to hearing and willing to accept.

[dlandis]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

I don’t know anything more than you do about Jan Hammer. But I’m sure you recall that people (or at least kids) were amazed by how he made a synth sound like a guitar.

nope, i wasnt even aware he had?
are we saying people thought it sounded like a guitar on the miami vice theme?
ill have to have a proper listen to this sometime, i can barely recall it tbh, as i say, i was but a child.

I don't want to irritate people by being OT, so I'll make this my last comment on Jan Hammer. I'm not sure if this is where it came from or if it was a reaction to the opinions of those who listened to him (my guess is the latter,) but on the back notes of The First Seven Days, there is a remark assuring the listener that there are no electric guitars on the album. I don't remember ever thinking there were guitars on it, but his technique in his solos on the first and, I think, last compositions are really guitaristic. I can definitely see someone being confused about it.

[El°HYM]

Making synths sound guitaristic.is just plain blasphemous.

[dlandis]

Making synths sound guitaristic.is just plain blasphemous.

In the eyes of the synthesist or the guitarist?

[zerocrossing]

Making synths sound guitaristic.is just plain blasphemous.

In the eyes of the synthesist or the guitarist?

I did the opposite for decades. Turnabout is fair play.

[vurt]

cant say ive heard much jan hammer, aside from the miami vice theme.
i think i was still a child when that was on?

it sounds similar to jmj to me, so never looked further as its not my kind of thing.
would you have any recommendations for a couple of tracks that stand out?

I don’t know anything more than you do about Jan Hammer. But I’m sure you recall that people (or at least kids) were amazed by how he made a synth sound like a guitar.

nope, i wasnt even aware he had?
are we saying people thought it sounded like a guitar on the miami vice theme?
ill have to have a proper listen to this sometime, i can barely recall it tbh, as i say, i was but a child.

I don't want to irritate people by being OT, so I'll make this my last comment on Jan Hammer. I'm not sure if this is where it came from or if it was a reaction to the opinions of those who listened to him (my guess is the latter,) but on the back notes of The First Seven Days, there is a remark assuring the listener that there are no electric guitars on the album. I don't remember ever thinking there were guitars on it, but his technique in his solos on the first and, I think, last compositions are really guitaristic. I can definitely see someone being confused about it.

please don't misunderstand, i wasnt saying i didn't believe it or that i thought it didn't sound guitar like, now ive listened to crockets theme, right through, i can hear what jamcat was talking about.
my recollection of the track, was from the opening, which ive never listened past before knowingly, so never noticed it before.

and yes, it doesn't sound like a guitar per se, but it does have a guitaresque performance, which i guess at the time was "different".

i really don't think miami vice, caught on much in the nw of england back then, so i never really took much notice.

now im older, im always happy to find new music to listen to, or learn bits of musical history i may not have come across before. so thanks all for the conversation and information, interesting to hear different view points

[egbert101]

Jan Hammer's entire performance identity was him playing synthesizer like a guitar! Just google any image of him and he's there with a keyboard around his neck! Literally everyone had Escape From Television in their CD collection. But that's all in the past of course.