KVR Audio

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:27 am

Sascha Franck wrote:Now, could Roland snag Emagic off Apple's hands as well, please?

I think Roland has a better relationship with Cakewalk than Emagic.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:35 am

AD80 wrote: I think Roland has a better relationship with Cakewalk than Emagic.

K, maybe I should ask Wersi then.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:37 am

AD80 wrote:
Sascha Franck wrote:Now, could Roland snag Emagic off Apple's hands as well, please?
I think Roland has a better relationship with Cakewalk than Emagic.

Yes, but they may need to take that "up a gear" now... it will be interesting to see.

The trend though is for the big hardware companies to acquire the software companies with a view to making their hardware more attractive (as Apple, Avid and to some extent Sony have done). So I suspect that the big deal here is to try and make mLan etc universal standards, rather than to improve Cubase so much.

I think that Yamaha, not Steinberg, are the winners here, but time will tell.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:38 am

Sascha Franck wrote:
K, maybe I should ask Wersi then.

Who?

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:42 am

headquest wrote:

I think that Yamaha, not Steinberg, are the winners here, but time will tell.

I think you're right. I wonder if Pinnacle got their money's worth. I didnt really see any difference as far as new hardware etc.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:51 am

It will also be interesting to see what this does for the XG format.

I own a Yamaha PSR 2100, one of their semi-pro arranger keyboards. Quite apart from the fact that I'm a keyboard teacher, I find this instrument a very useful bit of kit for my own music making. Excellent sounds, etc.

While I don't like Cubase much (abandoned it a few years ago, in fact) I can see that it would be attractive to own a software sequencer that fully recognised XG and had an XG synth VST (kind of like the GM2 sound module Cakewalk/Roland have done with TTS-1 in Sonar 4).

In the ongoing battle between Roland/Yamaha over GM2 vs. XG, this could be a killer move for Yamaha, and I fear that the big "losers" here could very well be Roland/Cakewalk.

Also I feel that market dominance by one corporation is generally a BAD thing, in spite of the benefits in terms of compatibility. Where does all this leave Ableton, Propellerheads, etc?

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:00 am

Can someone describe mLAN?

cold c · Post by **cold c** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:04 am

AD80 wrote: I wonder if Pinnacle got their money's worth. I didnt really see any difference as far as new hardware etc.

I don't know about any tech that they got from Steinberg, but the "13 million euros" worth of sales* + the increasing value of the company could count for something.

Has anyone seen the actual selling price for the company this time? I remember last time it was around ~$24 million.

*= I assume they were profitable.

Mo Verdigast · Post by **Mo Verdigast** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:06 am

The psychic swami looks into the crystal ball and sees ...

Korg buys Fruity!

You think I'm joking, but I'm not.

Korg has to play catch up with Roland and Yamaha. Korg likes dance-oriented things. Fruity is something you can dance to. So go for it, Korg!

You think I'm joking, but I'm not.

Admittedly, Korg and Fruity are some of my favorite companies. They are quirky and fun, so they might get along. Japan is the Belgium of the Far East, or somethign like that. Anyway, you heard it first here.

evs · Post by **evs** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:08 am

AUTO-ADMIN: Non-MP3, WAV, OGG, SoundCloud, YouTube, Vimeo, Twitter and Facebook links in this post have been protected automatically. Once the member reaches 5 posts the links will function as normal.

rounser wrote:Can someone describe mLAN?

http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info.php (http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info.php)

evs

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:11 am

Mo Verdigast wrote:The psychic swami looks into the crystal ball and sees ...

Korg buys Fruity!

You think I'm joking, but I'm not.

Korg has to play catch up with Roland and Yamaha. Korg likes dance-oriented things. Fruity is something you can dance to. So go for it, Korg!

You think I'm joking, but I'm not.

Admittedly, Korg and Fruity are some of my favorite companies. They are quirky and fun, so they might get along. Japan is the Belgium of the Far East, or somethign like that. Anyway, you heard it first here.

Doesn't Yamaha already "own" Korg?

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:30 am

AD80 wrote: Who?

You don't know Wersi? Man - you must live in another century!
Manufacture of finest electronic instruments ever since I can think of any.

Makers of beautiful products such as the "Verona":
http://www.wersi.net/Verona_Weiss.jpg

Dude, if THAT doesn't seriously feed your G.A.S. I dunno what's wrong with you!

mao · Post by **mao** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:35 am

bah globalization !!!

Think about employees and their family.

I'm a programmer... and in the last 10 years I had to change company every 2-3 years due to company buyed from a bigger one. They always promise improvements... but what you see is only cutting on costs and employees to have "efficiency". A lot of employees forced to change city, leaving friends and parents...

Sometimes think about that...

dekky · Post by **dekky** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:36 am

Sascha Franck wrote:
You don't know Wersi? Man - you must live in another century!
Manufacture of finest electronic instruments ever since I can think of any.

the official machines of virtuoso franz lambert

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:37 am

dekky wrote:the official machines of virtuoso franz lambert

And I thought he went for Farfisa...

Yamaha Buys Steinberg