KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:40 pm

hi guys, didnt know a better title. i know WAVELAB from OVER! 10 years ago and some light version, it was Wavelab LE or something but then Audacity wasnt there or it was even longer ago...
Since Audacity is out i didnt check Wavelab anymore at all and since I also got some DAWs then not at all.... recently i saw Wavelab again and i read it is the MASTERING SUITE.

Latest Audacity is even more awesome than my 5 years old version. i use Audacity for:
basic stuff, cutting some starts/ends, quick fade in and out, quickly chopping up samples, exporting in different formats.

so everything basic, the rest i do in my DAW, mixing, mastering etc.

so i wonder would Wavelab bring anything more to the table? i definitely dont need a dedicated Mastering suite as i got my DAW with lots of plugins.
but maybe Wavela can get Looping better, different Fades and so on?

thx

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:25 pm

It's been a long time since I've used Audacity, but unless they've improved it a lot, Wavelab has far better metering tools (if that's important to you).

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:37 am

I would use audacity or similar until you can get soundforge pro in the humble bundle for
next to nothing.

Benedict · Post by **Benedict** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 am

Audacity isn't really a full DAW or Sequencer as we called em before it was just audio loops. While Mixcraft is not my speed (being a Reason man) it is a more complete DAW experience so you get MIDI and better Mixing - assuming that matters for you.

Saffran · Post by **Saffran** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:06 am

Benedict wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 am Audacity isn't really a full DAW or Sequencer as we called em before it was just audio loops. While Mixcraft is not my speed (being a Reason man) it is a more complete DAW experience so you get MIDI and better Mixing - assuming that matters for you.

Hey Benedict!
You really shouldn't post anything before you got your morning coffe.

Hes already got a daw. It's in the text and his signature.

Benedict · Post by **Benedict** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:51 am

Saffran wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:06 am
Benedict wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 am Audacity isn't really a full DAW or Sequencer as we called em before it was just audio loops. While Mixcraft is not my speed (being a Reason man) it is a more complete DAW experience so you get MIDI and better Mixing - assuming that matters for you.

Hey Benedict!
You really shouldn't post anything before you got your morning coffe.
Hes already got a daw. It's in the text and his signature.

Yeah you're right, deffo didn't read that. Broken Ingerlich helpeth not but yeah.
Carry on

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:17 pm

Haven't used Wavelab in awhile, but Audacity has great Noise Removal tools. It's much improved because You can use stacked VST effects in real time.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:57 pm

Comparing freebie Audacity to Wavelab, is like comparing tree house to mansion.
There is the reason why you have to pay $748 for Wavelab and nothing for Audacity

https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/

Largos · Post by **Largos** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:29 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:57 pm Comparing freebie Audacity to Wavelab, is like comparing tree house to mansion.
There is the reason why you have to pay $748 for Wavelab and nothing for Audacity
https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/

People will pay big money for a brand name without thinking?

Trensharo · Post by **Trensharo** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:19 pm

Largos wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:29 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:57 pm Comparing freebie Audacity to Wavelab, is like comparing tree house to mansion.
There is the reason why you have to pay $748 for Wavelab and nothing for Audacity
https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/
People will pay big money for a brand name without thinking?

WaveLab is a $499 application - $379 on Crossgrade.

Beyond that, the functional disparity between WaveLab Pro and Audacity is as wide as the Pacific. The two applications don't even really play in the same market segment. Audacity is most comparable to WaveLab Cast, which is the lowest functional SKU of the WaveLab product line. WaveLab Cast is targeted at the market segment where Audacity sees most popularity.

I don't see a point in using Audacity when you can just use your DAW to do what you need to do.

There isn't a question regarding WaveLab delivering goods when you already have a DAW. This issue is mostly with Audacity. If you have Cubase, Studio One, Digital Performer, Samplitude Pro X, Logic Pro, etc. then there is very little reason to even install Audacity on your machine. The DAW will do 90% of what Audacity does without round tripping.

Audacity is for people who only need a digital tape machine. It's highly used by podcasters and voiceover artists.

Largos · Post by **Largos** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:31 pm

Trensharo wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:19 pm
Largos wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:29 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:57 pm Comparing freebie Audacity to Wavelab, is like comparing tree house to mansion.
There is the reason why you have to pay $748 for Wavelab and nothing for Audacity
https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/
People will pay big money for a brand name without thinking?
WaveLab is a $499 application - $379 on Crossgrade.

Beyond that, the functional disparity between WaveLab Pro and Audacity is as wide as the Pacific. The two applications don't even really play in the same market segment. Audacity is most comparable to WaveLab Cast, which is the lowest functional SKU of the WaveLab product line. WaveLab Cast is targeted at the market segment where Audacity sees most popularity.

I don't see a point in using Audacity when you can just use your DAW to do what you need to do.

There isn't a question regarding WaveLab delivering goods when you already have a DAW. This issue is mostly with Audacity. If you have Cubase, Studio One, Digital Performer, Samplitude Pro X, Logic Pro, etc. then there is very little reason to even install Audacity on your machine. The DAW will do 90% of what Audacity does without round tripping.

Audacity is for people who only need a digital tape machine. It's highly used by podcasters and voiceover artists.

You're just saying you think wavelab is good without actually providing any reasons. What can wavelab that a DAW can't? This is what the OP wanted to know.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:35 pm

https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/
Ffs; You would think that KVR members are educated, I gues I’m wrong

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 pm

It is sometimes nice to have a dedicated mastering suite as this allows you to focus on the task. WaveLab comes with a broad range of metering and analysis tools that editing tools such as Audacity do not have. Sure, you can add them through plugins but that can become quite costly very easily as well.

Largos · Post by **Largos** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:43 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:35 pm https://www.steinberg.net/wavelab/
Ffs; You would think that KVR members are educated, I gues I’m wrong

You should get an adult to come explain to you what a discussion forum is.

traz · Post by **traz** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:08 pm

I am with pekbro wait for Humble Bundle and get Soundforge for next to nothing..... ✔

Audacity vs Wavelab - Does Wavelab bring any goods when you got a DAW already?