Greetings KVR people.
Doesn't it happen to them that the reverbs that are included in the synthesizers don't end up convincing or liking them, or is it just me?
reverbs inside synths
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- KVRAF
- 43892 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
A lot of times it seems that the built in effects are nothing special. They do not seem to be designed to work with the instrument. They are just generic code.
With the new GForce Mellotron, I think the effects make the instrument sound bad. They should maybe have used some old sounding effects that were common when Mellotrons were in fashion.
With the new GForce Mellotron, I think the effects make the instrument sound bad. They should maybe have used some old sounding effects that were common when Mellotrons were in fashion.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 24 Sep, 2021
Some synths do have great reverbs, few to mention: Access Virus line (in fact reverbs are one of the best in general), Parawave Rapid, Synapse Dune 3, ReFX Nexus 4.5, UAD Opal.
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- KVRAF
- 4083 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA
I'd say the Virus line is an example of the one of the worst onboard reverbs I've ever heard. Perhaps the very worst though is Largo. Anyway the good ones, I'd say the one in Spire, Massive (and Massive X) and Diva's is nice too.
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mountainmaster mountainmaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=153531 - KVRian
- 620 posts since 10 Jun, 2007 from Netherlands
I usually disable built-in reverbs. A mix can become cluttered and unnatural if each instrument has a different type of reverb.
I prefer to have the same reverb on all instruments but not in equal amounts. For example, to simulate close miking I send less of an instrument's signal to the reverb. Bass instruments only get a bare minimum amount of reverb to avoid muddiness.
I found that a very subtle delay often works better than reverb for making an instrument less dry.
I prefer to have the same reverb on all instruments but not in equal amounts. For example, to simulate close miking I send less of an instrument's signal to the reverb. Bass instruments only get a bare minimum amount of reverb to avoid muddiness.
I found that a very subtle delay often works better than reverb for making an instrument less dry.
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- KVRAF
- 3638 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
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- KVRian
- 1450 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California
I think many if the in-app reverbs are there for user convenience for preset design and also to show off presets for prospective customers. Convolution reverbs can add sound design elements that are not traditional reverb. Falcon has the same Sparkverb engine as the plugin effect (I think it is similar for Dual Delay X and Thorus effects in Falcon as well).
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- KVRAF
- 2807 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
Maybe because he 'created' them within 21 minutes, according to the time stamp.imrae wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:17 am Greetings new member.
Doesn't it happen to them that the five new topics that are created by a newcomer don't end up convincing of much thought or quality, or is it just me?
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- KVRAF
- 18338 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I think most synths come with reverb because they’re expecting users to demo them alone, and a lot of sounds benefit from a bit of reverb. That said, it can often backfire. I noticed that my Hydrasynth instantly sounded significantly better when I removed its reverb and used one of my native or UAD plugins.
Mountainmaster had it right, though. Aside from previewing presets, on board reverb is usually not the best choice, even when it’s good.
Mountainmaster had it right, though. Aside from previewing presets, on board reverb is usually not the best choice, even when it’s good.
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- KVRAF
- 9542 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I prefer trance synths over tarnce anyway. Build in reverb I would never need, they eat resources for nothing. They are there for sound designers to make their cheap sounds looking better. If necessary I still could create presets in my daw which contain any fx I want...
But for creating a space a reverb belongs on a fx track and you send dry signals to it, no matter what style...
I do love one ping only drained in reverb, but I'd rather drain it myself...
But for creating a space a reverb belongs on a fx track and you send dry signals to it, no matter what style...
I do love one ping only drained in reverb, but I'd rather drain it myself...