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vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:06 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm Have a look at the Blue Cat Re-Guitar link I posted above. For a more lo-fi (but surprisingly effective..) solution in getting a flavour of the hollowbody woody sound, I made these convolution impulse responses a while back, by hitting the body of my semi-acoustic guitar with a screwdriver. :hihi:

If you mix in (I find about half and half works) some with the dry sound before your effects/amp etc it doesn't sound half bad;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E0GYoy ... sp=sharing

Not being a big Beatles fan got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox. Sure others will chime (hoho) in.
theres the beatles diary book, quite expensive now, but it will cover every track, with notes from the studio diary and desk.

but early on, was a fairly basic set up, you can see on live shows what they used, and they would set up and play.
overdubbing maybe a solo or a vocal.
wasnt until later they got fancy with the studio equipment.
What's expensive?

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:37 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:06 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm Have a look at the Blue Cat Re-Guitar link I posted above. For a more lo-fi (but surprisingly effective..) solution in getting a flavour of the hollowbody woody sound, I made these convolution impulse responses a while back, by hitting the body of my semi-acoustic guitar with a screwdriver. :hihi:

If you mix in (I find about half and half works) some with the dry sound before your effects/amp etc it doesn't sound half bad;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E0GYoy ... sp=sharing

Not being a big Beatles fan got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox. Sure others will chime (hoho) in.
theres the beatles diary book, quite expensive now, but it will cover every track, with notes from the studio diary and desk.

but early on, was a fairly basic set up, you can see on live shows what they used, and they would set up and play.
overdubbing maybe a solo or a vocal.
wasnt until later they got fancy with the studio equipment.
What's expensive?
actually, looks like theres been a repressing...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354898188753 ... d3f7ca47c6

or at least the prices have come down a bit
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vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:40 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:37 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:06 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm Have a look at the Blue Cat Re-Guitar link I posted above. For a more lo-fi (but surprisingly effective..) solution in getting a flavour of the hollowbody woody sound, I made these convolution impulse responses a while back, by hitting the body of my semi-acoustic guitar with a screwdriver. :hihi:

If you mix in (I find about half and half works) some with the dry sound before your effects/amp etc it doesn't sound half bad;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E0GYoy ... sp=sharing

Not being a big Beatles fan got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox. Sure others will chime (hoho) in.
theres the beatles diary book, quite expensive now, but it will cover every track, with notes from the studio diary and desk.

but early on, was a fairly basic set up, you can see on live shows what they used, and they would set up and play.
overdubbing maybe a solo or a vocal.
wasnt until later they got fancy with the studio equipment.
What's expensive?
actually, looks like theres been a repressing...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354898188753 ... d3f7ca47c6

or at least the prices have come down a bit
I wonder if I can purchase it from the US Ebay? I don't know if I can get it from the UK.

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i would imagine theres some somewhere in the usa, just search, that was just the first link for me.
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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:36 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm Have a look at the Blue Cat Re-Guitar link I posted above. For a more lo-fi (but surprisingly effective..) solution in getting a flavour of the hollowbody woody sound, I made these convolution impulse responses a while back, by hitting the body of my semi-acoustic guitar with a screwdriver. :hihi:

If you mix in (I find about half and half works) some with the dry sound before your effects/amp etc it doesn't sound half bad;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E0GYoy ... sp=sharing

Not being a big Beatles fan got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox. Sure others will chime (hoho) in.
Not to sound like an idiot but what do I do with the impulse responses? I've never used them before.
You just need an impulse loader. I think you use Cubearse? This explain it better than me;

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/what-is- ... e/798742/4

There's actually one in guitar rig - Reflektor - oif you have Komplete and install it. If you haven't then something like this should do;

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/nadir-by-ignite-amps

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vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:45 pm i would imagine theres some somewhere in the usa, just search, that was just the first link for me.
I ordered from Anazon. They had it for under $20. Thanks for making me aware of this. Had no idea it existed.

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donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:57 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:36 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm Have a look at the Blue Cat Re-Guitar link I posted above. For a more lo-fi (but surprisingly effective..) solution in getting a flavour of the hollowbody woody sound, I made these convolution impulse responses a while back, by hitting the body of my semi-acoustic guitar with a screwdriver. :hihi:

If you mix in (I find about half and half works) some with the dry sound before your effects/amp etc it doesn't sound half bad;

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E0GYoy ... sp=sharing

Not being a big Beatles fan got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox. Sure others will chime (hoho) in.
Not to sound like an idiot but what do I do with the impulse responses? I've never used them before.
You just need an impulse loader. I think you use Cubearse? This explain it better than me;

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/what-is- ... e/798742/4

There's actually one in guitar rig - Reflektor - oif you have Komplete and install it. If you haven't then something like this should do;

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/nadir-by-ignite-amps
Thanks. I will definitely give this a go.

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wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:02 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:45 pm i would imagine theres some somewhere in the usa, just search, that was just the first link for me.
I ordered from Anazon. They had it for under $20. Thanks for making me aware of this. Had no idea it existed.
:tu: always happy to help if i can :D
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donkey tugger wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:35 pm [...] got no real idea about the amps etc excerpt Vox.
I'd be happy to record something with my VOX AC-50 head. Should fit in the period.

If only... there's an impediment. Last time I tried (some years ago) my audio recording PC (based on WinXP I think) did not boot anymore and my current computer (MacBookPro) has no audio interface at all. Being a laptop I can't use my Maya1010 PCIe card on that.
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vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:07 pm
wagtunes wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:02 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:45 pm i would imagine theres some somewhere in the usa, just search, that was just the first link for me.
I ordered from Anazon. They had it for under $20. Thanks for making me aware of this. Had no idea it existed.
:tu: always happy to help if i can :D
Just wanted to let you know that the Beatles book came today. While it's certainly going to be an interesting read (at over 200 pages) it doesn't go into the detail that I was hoping for. There is some info on what was used for recording each song but it's not a complete equipment list. More like a "this is the important stuff." For example, on one song, they brought in an orchestra and listed all the instruments used and how many of each. While that's nice and will certainly help when doing the arrangement, there's no mention of tape decks were used, what amps, what FX, etc. Sure, some guitars and keyboard are listed but again, not complete. I'm going to have to fill in a lot of blanks and take my best guess.

Still, as a huge Beatles fan (Paul is my songwriting idol) I'm going to thoroughly enjoy reading this. However, what I'm looking for on a technical level (complete specs) probably doesn't exist. It would be hundreds if not thousands of pages long.

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damn :(
sorry i sent you on the wrong foot. glad you will still enjoy the book though :)
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It is known for instance, that while they had solely Vox amps on stage (due to contractual obligations) they used whatever amp they thought fit on their studio recordings. So...

Another 2ct: the songwriting is more important than the gear. As long as you get the vibe right (which can be done using anything)
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Found what I was looking for.

https://www.beatlesrecordingreferencemanuals.com/

They have all 5 volumes at Amazon. $175 total. About $200 with shipping and tax. This is a song by song breakdown, all the gear.

The other book I'll read to fill in some gaps and just to relax.

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Search on YouTube for "the analogs beatles"
These guys managed to do what was thought impossible: live performance of their studio albums. And they were very meticulous in the process: original equipment whenever possible. It was a rather expensive hobby project.
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