Which drum machine could that be?
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 18 Jun, 2014
Hi,
I'm searching for a drum machine that could have a similar hi-pitched hats:
https://sndup.net/ss44/
Considering the sound it has (mono, very "computerish") I'm suspecting it's a drum machine or at least a sample, but I can't pin point which one... I've checked samples from TR-909, 808 and Linndrum (and many more), couldn't find a single one remotely close (especially in the timbre this has).
If you got any clue!
I'm searching for a drum machine that could have a similar hi-pitched hats:
https://sndup.net/ss44/
Considering the sound it has (mono, very "computerish") I'm suspecting it's a drum machine or at least a sample, but I can't pin point which one... I've checked samples from TR-909, 808 and Linndrum (and many more), couldn't find a single one remotely close (especially in the timbre this has).
If you got any clue!
- KVRAF
- 20940 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It sounds like a high passed loop, which is why you can still hear the transients of the other drums that were part of the loop. It's pretty resonant, too.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 18 Jun, 2014
That's just me who failed to remove the kick from the original audio 
The hats is off-beat so it's not high passed (at least not by me...).
Any guess of a machine able to produce that (outside so a resonance/high pass on a normal/sampled hats - tried it doesn't do even close to this result for a good 50 ive tried...).
What i've tried was to get a sample (let's say tr 909 OH), and bump it in frequency (about 1 octave for the 909 OH) + EQ to remove low frequency because clearly they are gone indeed, it get there tone-wise, but it sound so thin due to the +1 octave on the sample :/ So that's why I'm suspecting a machine I dont know doing directly this...
The hats is off-beat so it's not high passed (at least not by me...).
Any guess of a machine able to produce that (outside so a resonance/high pass on a normal/sampled hats - tried it doesn't do even close to this result for a good 50 ive tried...).
What i've tried was to get a sample (let's say tr 909 OH), and bump it in frequency (about 1 octave for the 909 OH) + EQ to remove low frequency because clearly they are gone indeed, it get there tone-wise, but it sound so thin due to the +1 octave on the sample :/ So that's why I'm suspecting a machine I dont know doing directly this...
- KVRAF
- 20940 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
It's an old school MPC technique. High pass out the other drums and add resonance so not too much of the hihat's fundamental frequencies get lost. The loop was probably then pitched up to match the BPM. The BPM is too slow for drum 'n bass so I'm guessing it was only pitched up a few semitones.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 18 Jun, 2014
So you recommend a s3000xl or s6000 kind of? But then as it's a sampler any first pick for samples source?
Was not so so into getting a sampler in 2023 but if that has that nice pitched sound, I know nothing else in my collection doing this
Was not so so into getting a sampler in 2023 but if that has that nice pitched sound, I know nothing else in my collection doing this
- KVRAF
- 16890 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Just check your samples catalogue again, but now use your pitch wheel 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 18 Jun, 2014
Constructive comments please thank youBertKoor wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:24 am Just check your samples catalogue again, but now use your pitch wheel![]()
Like written above, and like I think most of people here, I got too many samples.
The majority of electronic hats like this one above are 808 or 909 ish in their sound, they are both about a whole octave below this. And so if you pitch them up, you either get a very short closed HH, or a thin sound that got nothing interesting as its way too distorted.
So that's why Im searching for either a machine going that sound out of the box, or like Uncle E suggested, a specific pitch algorithm from a specific era/brand, that could get there due to mostly inaccuracy vs modern pitch algorithm.
And yes, I'm very interested to get that sound and I like it quite a lot, enough to buy a sampler if that gets me there
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 158 posts since 18 Jun, 2014
Got a s6000 from a friend, so I could test, and yep, that was it.
If I record a sample on C3 and plays it on C4, Ableton touch it the less, while the s6000 is not neutral at all and gives that kind of hi pass + grain I was looking for!
If I record a sample on C3 and plays it on C4, Ableton touch it the less, while the s6000 is not neutral at all and gives that kind of hi pass + grain I was looking for!
