Vital - Released

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

i like it and have desire to support/buy it,but still can't see reason why - better mod matrix,fx section isn't best man can touch,reverb could be upgraded,better filter rotation or at least to make them like knobs or something,cause right now filter section is the most ugliest i've ever seen,big list of interesting waveforms are stuff what would make spend some money on it.
For free is tha best,but in market competition many producers prefer Serum cause deliver needed options and sound,despite is more limited is some aspects.
My personal opinion is that,IF develop listen more advanced users/designers and follow their demands would be top producer''s choice,it's just step away from that.

[Weasel-Boy]

In spite of the few communiques Matt has recently released, he hasn’t actually addressed any bug or progress reports on the state of Vital since the v1.5.5 silicon beta was released. I am certainly glad his family health issues have passed, but I’d still like to hear some Vital progress news from him on occasion.

[Weasel-Boy]

Those who paid for it no matter how little have a right to expect a working product with at least some support. You know as well as I do if some other developers pulled the same thing they would be flamed to cinders.

Let's not even get into what he promised customers who pay for the Subscription model.

Teksonik....you know it's funny but on Vital's website forum, someone named Muiren responded almost as if responding to part of your post here.

Muiren wrote:

I’ve been paying the subscription based on faith in Matt. There are business models where this could work with it being free, but they all require a team that is fully engaged, not a talented solopreneur.

I’ve no idea what Matt’s dealing with in his private life, but no question the community needs his leadership and the business needs either his attention or recruiting a team willing to take on the responsibility of promoting his vision.

I just thought this was interesting enough to repost here.

[Alexander137]

I don't have any stability issues with Vital. Everything works clearly.
This has been one of my favorite synths for the last couple of years.
However, I would also like to see updates. Lots of things to add and improve. I hope that the project will not be abandoned completely, and if it does, the open source code of the latest version will be published.

[keyman_sam]

nvm

[Masterofdisaster]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

[mabian]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

I don't see what the difference could be, the engine is exactly the same...

- Mario

[El°HYM]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

You might not make many friends in here with revealing those facts but indeed Vital sounds nasty in the upper registers. People will tell you it is not true and meant to be and all that. But also no difference between paid and free version soundwise or engine.

[Psuper]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

You might not make many friends in here with revealing those facts but indeed Vital sounds nasty in the upper registers. People will tell you it is not true and meant to be and all that. But also no difference between paid and free version soundwise or engine.

Might want to lookup the meaning of "Facts". There's no "nasty tones" anywhere unless you put them in there.

Vital is the top synth out there right now for a whole slew of reasons that matter to me, regardless of price.

[Psuper]

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[N__K]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

You might not make many friends in here with revealing those facts but indeed Vital sounds nasty in the upper registers. People will tell you it is not true and meant to be and all that. But also no difference between paid and free version soundwise or engine.

Can that "nastiness" be confirmed with some objective measurements?

High resolution spectrum analysis, oscilloscope, perhaps null tests against ideal waveforms etc.?

If it's actually there and your experience allows you to recognize it, might as well try to help the developer locate the exact symptom - or perhaps even the problem, since the source code is out there.

[Masterofdisaster]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

You might not make many friends in here with revealing those facts but indeed Vital sounds nasty in the upper registers. People will tell you it is not true and meant to be and all that. But also no difference between paid and free version soundwise or engine.

Damn.. Wonder why people use this synth then frightens me a little bit that people can't seem to hear that very obvious bad sound

[Masterofdisaster]

How do you all work around the fact that vital has a bad sound? Not sure if it's aliased oscillators or what but it has a nasty tone in the 12k-20k range. Just curious what people are doing to work around that. Then again I've only tried the free version I suppose the paid one might actually sound good?

You might not make many friends in here with revealing those facts but indeed Vital sounds nasty in the upper registers. People will tell you it is not true and meant to be and all that. But also no difference between paid and free version soundwise or engine.

Can that "nastiness" be confirmed with some objective measurements?

High resolution spectrum analysis, oscilloscope, perhaps null tests against ideal waveforms etc.?

If it's actually there and your experience allows you to recognize it, might as well try to help the developer locate the exact symptom - or perhaps even the problem, since the source code is out there.

Before that, you could just try the synth yourself. Then that whole thing you just said would be unnecessary. Just try it and you'll hear it

[El°HYM]

You see? But yeah, if you cant hear it. Who cares.

[N__K]

I just did a test with a saw wave (main wave phase at 0, phases of all partials at 0) to Direct Out - in other words, a test of oscillator module directly. In 12-20kHz range (and below) it sounds and looks like what I'd expect it to: a clean -6dB per octave slope [of partials].

In what kind of patching configuration would it be easiest to notice the phenomenon you're talking about?