Bitwig Studio 5 Released (good news for 16 track users as well)

[eluherlu]

Well in that case, they should release it exclusively for the essentials version as you have zero interest in it.

ARA is not essential, so that would be inappropriate

In all seriousness, I have never had an interest in Bitwig up untill the release of the "Essentials" version. None of the other stuff like "modulation", "Grid", included content, etc has the slightest appeal to me. But "Essentials" has everything that I need. I do own melodyne 5 Editor, and to think that if I buy Bitwig I will not be able to use it seems odd. It should be in Bitwig, Its a no brainer.

Just curious, if all that modulation and grid stuff isn't your interest in Bitwig, what other things in bitwig appeal to you? Asking because for me that makes Bitwig really unique. Without that it seems like a regular daw that of course can get a job done. But if we're talking about the price of Essentials, then yeah.

[_leras]

Yes, but proving once again that companies love their misnomers since it's actually missing some essentials while packing things in that aren't.
Which ironically keeps me from buying the higher versions.

Unless you really don't have the money, why would you ever not get the unconstrained full version.

Not having multiple outputs for an instrument in the basic version seems a reasonable restriction that can be worked around if needed. Only convenience hindered.

[BBFG#]

Yes, but proving once again that companies love their misnomers since it's actually missing some essentials while packing things in that aren't.
Which ironically keeps me from buying the higher versions.

Unless you really don't have the money, why would you ever not get the unconstrained full version.

Not having multiple outputs for an instrument in the basic version seems a reasonable restriction that can be worked around if needed. Only convenience hindered.

I don't feel restrained by the smaller version. I sometimes get a little annoyed with the "nags" to download packages I've tried in the past and found I had no use of or interest in. It would be nice to be able to silence those without having to submit to them and the bloat they create.

Haven't actually installed the update plan yet as I'm wondering more about timing in doing so and what others have found to be the best strategy to get the most out of their plans.
But staying at the 'essential' level is quite adequate for me. They always play games with what's included in each to get us believing that only the top package will do. Look at how many things they include that aren't 'essential' by many user's standards. And I like my horses (DAW) quick and fit. The tack (3rd party plugins) is what keeps it familiar and comfortable for me.

[dellboy]

Well in that case, they should release it exclusively for the essentials version as you have zero interest in it.

ARA is not essential, so that would be inappropriate

In all seriousness, I have never had an interest in Bitwig up untill the release of the "Essentials" version. None of the other stuff like "modulation", "Grid", included content, etc has the slightest appeal to me. But "Essentials" has everything that I need. I do own melodyne 5 Editor, and to think that if I buy Bitwig I will not be able to use it seems odd. It should be in Bitwig, Its a no brainer.

Just curious, if all that modulation and grid stuff isn't your interest in Bitwig, what other things in bitwig appeal to you? Asking because for me that makes Bitwig really unique. Without that it seems like a regular daw that of course can get a job done. But if we're talking about the price of Essentials, then yeah.

Loop recording.

I have Cubase and Studio One, neither of which have this feature. Logic audio has it,but that requires buying a Mac. I messed around with Bitwig on the last day of the sale, and for some reason I couldn't get the recorded loops to stay in sync,so I passed. I really do not have any need of the grid and stuff,which I know would end up being a big time waster for me.

[purplepat69]

The good thing is that there are no track limitations on any version, yes, even on essentials.

I find it ridiculous that some DAWs (this means you, Ableton) decide to limit the tracks on their basic products, unless you upgrade to a much more expensive version. It is definitely what pushed me to my present DAW, because it offered unlimited tracks for a reasonable price (not to mention that it is also full-featured).

[musicproducerdee]

The good thing is that there are no track limitations on any version, yes, even on essentials.

I find it ridiculous that some DAWs (this means you, Ableton) decide to limit the tracks on their basic products, unless you upgrade to a much more expensive version. It is definitely what pushed me to my present DAW, because it offered unlimited tracks for a reasonable price (not to mention that it is also full-featured).

I don't find it ridiculous at all. They need to sell their flagship product. If they provide everything in the most basic version. Who's going to buy the real deal? I'm a business minded person myself and come from a business background myself, so I totally understand. Actually, I'm the kind of person who encourages businesses/services to protect their product.

[whyterabbyt]

The good thing is that there are no track limitations on any version, yes, even on essentials.

I find it ridiculous that some DAWs (this means you, Ableton) decide to limit the tracks on their basic products, unless you upgrade to a much more expensive version. It is definitely what pushed me to my present DAW, because it offered unlimited tracks for a reasonable price (not to mention that it is also full-featured).

No, not for the basic product, I think its a viable tradeoff for a beginner/dabbler/whatever who is only able/willing to pay 20% or so of the price of the full product. 16 stereo audio tracks is more than most albums ever were done on.

I do find it ridiculous that some DAWs (used to) have arbitrary limits on things like that on their full products, though. One of the reasons I originally chose my previous 'main' DAW 20+ years ago was because all the other equivalent products, eg Cubase, Logic, ProTools, had limits on numbers of tracks, sends, plugin inserts yada yada.

[muzicxs]

I do find it ridiculous that some DAWs (used to) have arbitrary limits on things like that on their full products, though.

God forbids companies to try to segment their users into a sustainable business model