Vital - Released

[pdxindy]

it had exactly that "nasty high frequency noise" that im talking about.

So im curious as to exactly how i even could begin to demonstrate something that I HEAR

Seriously? You don't know how to demonstrate something you hear? Seems absurd that it's necessary to say this: You post audio... duh!

And there's no need to compare to another synth. Just post maybe 15 seconds of a few different individual notes played one after the other that has the "nasty high frequency noise".

With such a scenario, any nasty high frequency noise will always be observable in a spectrum analyzer. It will be easy to confirm what you are hearing.

[elassi]

Nah, spectrum analyzers are an evil tool designed and published by Big Audio to stop you from free speech!!11!!Eleven!!

[vurt]

one of us
one of us
one of us

sorry, im just here for the weekly groupthink meeting

[elassi]

Two shocking facts no one is talking about:

1) The earth is flat.
2) Vital has a nasty high-frequency noise.

[liquidsound]

Two shocking facts no one is talking about:

1) The earth is flat.
2) Vital has a nasty high-frequency noise.

The earth is sharp!

[Masterofdisaster]

it had exactly that "nasty high frequency noise" that im talking about.

So im curious as to exactly how i even could begin to demonstrate something that I HEAR

Seriously? You don't know how to demonstrate something you hear? Seems absurd that it's necessary to say this: You post audio... duh!

And there's no need to compare to another synth. Just post maybe 15 seconds of a few different individual notes played one after the other that has the "nasty high frequency noise".

With such a scenario, any nasty high frequency noise will always be observable in a spectrum analyzer. It will be easy to confirm what you are hearing.

What you said is demonstrably wrong, and can be proven just a page back. Go check LFO8 test, the one he did fairly. With two synths. Where b was vital. Load them up and look at the spectrum. No you can't see it cause its so subtle. So... You're just talking out your other hole.

[Masterofdisaster]

Just load up a snippet of few seconds and point out where you perceive the problem.

That’s shouldn’t be difficult.

Just curious. Did you do a blind test yourself?
I did few times (with the help of my unwilling wife ) for different reasons and it works.

The clips themselves are literally just a few seconds. And since LFO8 is such a good sport he left them up all this time.

If you honestly can't tell B apart from A, that's cool but don't assume everyone can't.

[Masterofdisaster]

Sigh.. All the people making fun of me cause I hear a difference it's so tiresome. And vurt you're literally the poster child of kvr group think. You think you are funny and being sarcastic but you're actually not. I could insult and make fun also but that's not my style, plus I don't like bullying. This is like a whole forum now vs me, and tbh I grow tired of it altogether.

I hear a difference. There is a difference. You don't hear it, sucks to be you. I mean everybody on this thread who makes fun of me for hearing something you don't.
But, thanks to LFO8 there exist a good proof for what I'm hearing, right there. Sorry if your ears cannot process the difference.

[elassi]

how would i demonstrate it? what is it that you would like as proof exactly? clearly i would have to have 2 different synths, try to match them identically, then provide the delta. but the problem with that is there would ALWAYS be a delta, cause it would be extremely difficult to match 2 synths 100% identically.

But, thanks to LFO8 there exist a good proof for what I'm hearing, right there. Sorry if your ears cannot process the difference.

[liquidsound]

Just load up a snippet of few seconds and point out where you perceive the problem.

That’s shouldn’t be difficult.

Just curious. Did you do a blind test yourself?
I did few times (with the help of my unwilling wife ) for different reasons and it works.

The clips themselves are literally just a few seconds. And since LFO8 is such a good sport he left them up all this time.

If you honestly can't tell B apart from A, that's cool but don't assume everyone can't.

I’m talking about making a blind test yourself in your set up. If your problem is subjective, and by far according to the responses you’re getting seems to be the case, you are going to be miserable with Vital. Get rid of it.
If it is objective you should be able to demonstrate it. If you can’t, then it’s subjective for lack of proof.

[Dirtgrain]

I could insult and make fun also but that's not my style, plus I don't like bullying.

. . .

And vurt you're literally the poster child of kvr group think. You think you are funny and being sarcastic but you're actually not.

So... You're just talking out your other hole.

It seems to be your style after all.

[vurt]

Sigh.. All the people making fun of me cause I hear a difference it's so tiresome. And vurt you're literally the poster child of kvr group think. You think you are funny and being sarcastic but you're actually not. I could insult and make fun also but that's not my style, plus I don't like bullying. This is like a whole forum now vs me, and tbh I grow tired of it altogether.

psst i dont even use vital
im not against you in any way.
if you dont like a synth, i personally, dont care, theres plenty out there to like and dislike.

im sorry you took my comment as an insult, was just as you say yourself, a joke, to try to lighten the mood as i dont like folk arguing here.
do i always get it right, no, as here, it was taken as malicious.

it may feel like an attack now, but please, just relax and have fun here, dont take others so serious (you might turn in to bones )

[audiojunkie]

Sigh.. All the people making fun of me cause I hear a difference it's so tiresome. And vurt you're literally the poster child of kvr group think. You think you are funny and being sarcastic but you're actually not. I could insult and make fun also but that's not my style, plus I don't like bullying. This is like a whole forum now vs me, and tbh I grow tired of it altogether.

I hear a difference. There is a difference. You don't hear it, sucks to be you. I mean everybody on this thread who makes fun of me for hearing something you don't.
But, thanks to LFO8 there exist a good proof for what I'm hearing, right there. Sorry if your ears cannot process the difference.

For record, not "all" of us are making fun of you. I'm personally not concerned about Vital, because the developer seems to be MIA. When this thread was started, I "was" interested. If the developer starts supporting the product again, then my interest will come back immediately, but until then, my uneducated ears aren't going to bother with judging one way or another. I mostly still follow this thread with hopes that someone will bring some good news from the developer that he has resumed supporting his product. I'm not out to get anyone.

[zvenx]

Our ears are individual and differently sensitive to different things.

Whilst I myself don't hear something disturbing/bad etc with vital (my issues with vital are not audio related), I can't rule out that indeed M.o.D hears something in it that bothers his ear.

There are many synths I don't particularly like the sound of that others worship and vice versa..and I hear what I don't like, even if I am may not be able to satisfactorily explain it in words, I hear it.


rsp

[pdxindy]

I hear a difference. There is a difference. You don't hear it, sucks to be you. I mean everybody on this thread who makes fun of me for hearing something you don't.

Then post an audio example where you hear the unpleasant high end in Vital. If you are genuinely hearing something it is inevitable that there will be others who do as well.

That you refuse to do so, makes me think you are not as confident in your assertion as you claim. That's okay.

I consider Vital competent. I find the filters so-so and the oscillators are pretty good. The modulation is incredibly deep. I don't love the sound of Vital, but though it is not a favorite, I can get some good use out of it.