Backup Or Die
- KVRAF
- 2382 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Backing up, not wanting to die. I have double physical backups of both disks I can swap into action if needed and projects go to OneDrive.
Forgot it takes a lot of time for 4TB HDD's to copy data... its slow day today
Forgot it takes a lot of time for 4TB HDD's to copy data... its slow day today
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- KVRian
- 894 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
Backup no die here. Been 3-2-1 for a long as I can remember using a combo of Macrium Reflect and Syncback Pro
3 Copies of everything - 2 copies onsite and 1 offsite
System Imaging = Macrium Reflect v8.x
Full images each Sunday, incrementals every 5 hours from 5:00am to 10:00pm (TO NAS in Mirror Mode)
User Data = Syncback Pro v10
7 day a week user data backup (docs, songs, photos, app data etc) on 5 workstations - from source to NAS every 4 hours from 6:00am to 10:00pm
User Data Offsite = NAS User Data Source Folders (via Syncback Pro) to Blackblaze B2 (24x7x365)
And for good measure - some larger multimedia stashes like Videos and Music whose master source is on the NAS - use Stablebit DrivePool in Mirror mode in addition to a standalone series of long-term storage copies generated by Syncback Pro copied to 4TB standalone Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives - which are then taken to my office on a rotating schedule.
By my count - there is nary a single file anywhere (that really matters) that is not covered at least three ways.
VP
3 Copies of everything - 2 copies onsite and 1 offsite
System Imaging = Macrium Reflect v8.x
Full images each Sunday, incrementals every 5 hours from 5:00am to 10:00pm (TO NAS in Mirror Mode)
User Data = Syncback Pro v10
7 day a week user data backup (docs, songs, photos, app data etc) on 5 workstations - from source to NAS every 4 hours from 6:00am to 10:00pm
User Data Offsite = NAS User Data Source Folders (via Syncback Pro) to Blackblaze B2 (24x7x365)
And for good measure - some larger multimedia stashes like Videos and Music whose master source is on the NAS - use Stablebit DrivePool in Mirror mode in addition to a standalone series of long-term storage copies generated by Syncback Pro copied to 4TB standalone Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives - which are then taken to my office on a rotating schedule.
By my count - there is nary a single file anywhere (that really matters) that is not covered at least three ways.
VP
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Great. But why?Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:23 pm Backup no die here. Been 3-2-1 for a long as I can remember using a combo of Macrium Reflect and Syncback Pro
3 Copies of everything - 2 copies onsite and 1 offsite
System Imaging = Macrium Reflect v8.x
Full images each Sunday, incrementals every 5 hours from 5:00am to 10:00pm (TO NAS in Mirror Mode)
User Data = Syncback Pro v10
7 day a week user data backup (docs, songs, photos, app data etc) on 5 workstations - from source to NAS every 4 hours from 6:00am to 10:00pm
User Data Offsite = NAS User Data Source Folders (via Syncback Pro) to Blackblaze B2 (24x7x365)
And for good measure - some larger multimedia stashes like Videos and Music whose master source is on the NAS - use Stablebit DrivePool in Mirror mode in addition to a standalone series of long-term storage copies generated by Syncback Pro copied to 4TB standalone Seagate Ironwolf Pro drives - which are then taken to my office on a rotating schedule.
By my count - there is nary a single file anywhere (that really matters) that is not covered at least three ways.
VP
If you're running a pro studio I get it, sure. But if it's anything less...
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- KVRian
- 894 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
Why?
Do you want to lose all your inflight (or archived projects) if your main DAW drive dies? Or 20 years worth of photos because we did not back up the machines in the house? Or everything if the house burns down to the ground - with the NAS in it?
For a bit more perspective - I can fondly remember strolling down Front Street in the sunshine with my wife eating ice cream this past April in Lahaina, Maui and look at it right now....
The question is not why. It's when.
VP
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Photos ok, I have those backed up on hdd and online.
But projects...well, the ones that got released I'm probably not going to touch again. The ones that are not are probably never going to be.
It's not a big deal.
I mean, I have them backed up but wouldn't lose sleep over them if the worst happens.
It's the stuff I'm working on that gets most attention but even this is not really important until shit gets recorded for real. Then it's important. Until it's released.
I'm probably weird this way, I get it...
But with around 20 albums out (either under my name or the bands I was playing in) and another 30 I had my hand in...I don't really bother too much with it all.
But projects...well, the ones that got released I'm probably not going to touch again. The ones that are not are probably never going to be.
It's not a big deal.
I mean, I have them backed up but wouldn't lose sleep over them if the worst happens.
It's the stuff I'm working on that gets most attention but even this is not really important until shit gets recorded for real. Then it's important. Until it's released.
I'm probably weird this way, I get it...
But with around 20 albums out (either under my name or the bands I was playing in) and another 30 I had my hand in...I don't really bother too much with it all.
- KVRAF
- 14311 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I'm done with Western Digital backup hard drives. My 1 terabyte External died with so much gear on it. I now use the WD Portable My Passport. They are small, can hold lots, get banged around and they seem to last. I got one for my DVR and it wrote and rewrote massive amounts of data every day.
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- KVRian
- 894 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
I used to be that way too - until I actually lost a bunch of work some years ago and that was enough for me to get organized.soulata wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:59 pmBut projects...well, the ones that got released I'm probably not going to touch again. The ones that are not are probably never going to be. It's not a big deal.
Now to be fair - I am running an actual working studio for clients here - so I need to be covered.
And I get it - for some folks - backup is too much information and nary a thought.
But for others - it is.
VP
- addled muppet weed
- 111341 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i dont even have those.
i have roughly 20 photos, hard copies.
i have quite a good memory, so enjoy closing my eyes and remembering events.
when i cant remember when i get older, photos wont help.
these days especially, people spend too much time documenting the things they do, rather than just enjoying doing them.
sick of my mates taking pics of us all the bloody time.
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
This is a recipe for disaster.osiris wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:00 pm I'm done with Western Digital backup hard drives. My 1 terabyte External died with so much gear on it. I now use the WD Portable My Passport. They are small, can hold lots, get banged around and they seem to last. I got one for my DVR and it wrote and rewrote massive amounts of data every day.
Also, what's that saying: Doing something over and over again expecting different results is the definition of......
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
Both you, vurt, and Vocal Point, seem to have polar opposite opinions regarding archiving.vurt wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm
these days especially, people spend too much time documenting the things they do, rather than just enjoying doing them.
sick of my mates taking pics of us all the bloody time.
I agree with both of you 100%.
"Honestly, who cares? But seriously - 3.2.1 the important shit."
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Yup. It's like it didn't happen if they don't snap 30+ photos. I once got really annoyed when my gf kept taking pictures in a small intimate venue (jazz gig). Why can't you just listen and watch...vurt wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:31 pm
these days especially, people spend too much time documenting the things they do, rather than just enjoying doing them.
sick of my mates taking pics of us all the bloody time.
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- KVRian
- 1345 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
Reliable backups don't have to be complicated or expensive.
I back up my entire C drive to my G drive (internal 4 GB HDD) every evening
All UserData on the C drive is also backed up to my Synology NAS in realtime using Synology Drive (with versioning).
The NAS itself backs up its data to an internal drive and a USB drive every night and uploads the most important stuff to Backblaze (after encryption). I pay about $4 a month for around 670 GB.
All backups are 99% hands-off. I get a notification if I run out of space, and the backups are automatically verified every 30 days (though it's also a good idea to manually verify them occasionally).
I back up my entire C drive to my G drive (internal 4 GB HDD) every evening
All UserData on the C drive is also backed up to my Synology NAS in realtime using Synology Drive (with versioning).
The NAS itself backs up its data to an internal drive and a USB drive every night and uploads the most important stuff to Backblaze (after encryption). I pay about $4 a month for around 670 GB.
All backups are 99% hands-off. I get a notification if I run out of space, and the backups are automatically verified every 30 days (though it's also a good idea to manually verify them occasionally).
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
- KVRian
- 1188 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
"Stop using SanDisk SSDs or risk losing your data with no warning"
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