Banjostar wrote:True. And DT is even prettier.Beardedone wrote:Difference is DT has more talent! BT sure can't sing like the Donkster.
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Saucy! Now I just need the cream 'smart but casual' trousers and the hair....err....
Anybody famous using VSTis yet?
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Saucy! Now I just need the cream 'smart but casual' trousers and the hair....err....-
- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
Computers are hopeless! They’re so under-evolved! Of course, they offer the promise of the future of music, but Jesus, they’re badly designed! The fact that three million years of muscular evolution should end up being translated into an index finger clicking a mouse, this is the problem. Think of any analogue instrument: playing a guitar, for instance, you’re doing at least six things at once. I believe musicians have shrunk to fit the pathetic nature of the interfaces.whyterabbyt wrote:HanafiH quoth
I'd love to know the source of that. In every single interview of his that ever seen, and that's quite a few, he goes to extraordinary lengths when asked to explain why computers are useless for making music.
Yeah, and in every interview Ive seen he contradicts half of what he's spent years saying as though its quite profound to do so...
Doesnt surprise me he'd say one thing and do another wrt softsynths.
from "So why are we doing this?"
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/bria ... ay2001.htm
“What I am always trying to do is to kind of move back to a place where I am using as much of my body below the neck as possible. Because what I really hate is when it all becomes head music, when everything becomes nicely quantised.” Gesturing towards the computer screen, he says, “That thing is very rarely turned on now, because when you get into that landscape it is very hard to keep any muscular thing going, and I think there’s a lot of intelligence stored in here [Eno slaps his arm]. Three million years of evolution and this computer thing says, ‘Ignore all that’. There is some sort of hubris: ‘I’ve got a computer and I am going to use it’.”
from Silent Retreats
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/bria ... re00a.html
"One of the biggest problems, I think, with computers [is] that all of the designed energy is going into multiplying the options inside this box. Now, fine: that's wonderful, we're very pleased, in one sense; but the important thing, as anyone who's played synthesizers knows, is not the number of options that you have, but the rapport you can have with the instrument. This is why people playing crappy 35 year old electric guitars consistently come up with more interesting results, musically, than synthesizer players do. Because what you are thrilled by is not a new sound as such, but a new type of rapport that you feel. This is why there's a place for good players [and] why they don't disappear when sequencers suddenly come on the scene: because we still appreciate hearing that rapport. We feel that this is a musical activity. And these things [computers] as instruments are so pathetic. They depend so much on a kind of nerd's eye view of what sort of thing would be fun to do."
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"Those programs always force you into other areas of the brain, which might not necessarily be the ones you want to be in. Some people make good use of that, of course, and some musics that come out of that are successful. But other musics that try to use the bit of the brain that it likes to use are frustrated."
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"When I make loops on a sequencer, I always try to play them all the way through, so I play the whole part, then I listen to it, and quite often I find a long section that I like. Loop that, cut it up so that the loop doesn't recur regularly. The idea of always editing in straight vertical cuts is the most single annoying thing about most of that music. Because a whole part of my feeling has been to make music that is 'unlocked'.....this unlocked thing has been a big issue for me for a long time. And then suddenly this kind of music appears that is not only locked, but absolutely f**king bolted down together... "
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/bria ... ire95.html
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- addled muppet weed
- 111301 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ive heard griels is using VSTis,hes famous.
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Hang on mate, let me think of a Message before you uncloak my identity to my expectant public?vurt wrote:ive heard griels is using VSTis,hes famous.
OK, I admit it, I'm Vera Duckworth.
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- KVRist
- 312 posts since 11 Mar, 2003 from Dunedin, Florida
so he doesn't like computer sequencing but likes FM7. if he likes it, he probably uses it, which makes that point nicely relevant in this thread. i don't doubt that he does the majority of his work on non-computer equipment. but since he drinks the piss, i bet he takes it too.
My webcomic that has absolutely nothing to do with music, plugins, technology or football: http://friedcheeseballs.com/start
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
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- KVRist
- 328 posts since 30 Jan, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 3964 posts since 31 Aug, 2003 from In a foreign town, in a foreign land
//raises handbastien wrote:Right.dr.wackler wrote:
Who isn't then?
I'm not famous.
Groet, Erik
Pop music delenda est.
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
bastien wrote:Right.dr.wackler wrote:
Who isn't then?
..and when everybody's super, nobody wil be.
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- KVRist
- 45 posts since 20 Jun, 2003 from new york, new york
This seems to be eno's theory du jour. He said something similar on the korg interview about "the physicality of the kaos pad," which I guess means that four directions to move your finger than that damn limiting two direction button press is his idea of freedom. While I like a lot of what he says in these interviews, I think it's also a bit of disliking the technology you didn't come of age with. What do you think AOR people were saying about Eno's music in the mid to late 70's? In fact, Eno being a self-described non-musician, and arguably being more talented on the technology/production side of things, I find this physicality argument even more confusing. Is it self-loathing? 
I cannot play an instrument. I cannot remember melodies. I cannot sing. I have bad timing. I know way too little about counterpoint.
-Robert Henke
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
Doesn't everyone?LBN wrote:Then again Eno does drink his own urine.
