Analog Lab V vs Arturia V Collection 9/10

[MeanMrMustard]

What would I be missing out on if I picked up the Analog Lab V instead of the full V Collection 9 ? Besides not having each and every instrument is there not enough in the Analog Lab V to suffice ? It would be nice to have the full set but then again maybe less is more in that you don't get bogged down with too much choice ?

[jdoo]

Presets. Arturia used to include all the V Collection instrument presets with Analog Lab. They stopped doing that a couple of versions ago. You end up with a nice set of presets for the V Collection instruments.. but it is a subset. Additionally - you only can edit a small number of controls on the presets that you have with Analog Lab. Sometimes that is enough. . often, you may find you wanted fuller control of the timbres. You can split and layer the instruments and presets with Analog Lab, so there is a lot you can get out of it. If you find it on sale.. it's a great way to try out the V Collection.

[wwjd]

totally depends on your needs of use. If you like to deep edit, you need the full set. if you like to jam on, make music, and save money, lab would work fine. I bought the whole set, probably would have been fine using just the lab. it's like, everything, just no deep editing (im unsure other limitations) but there is minor tweaking of basic sound stuff you can edit. i think there is s DEMO of the lab? maybe try that and see if it covers all you need.

[QuietSheep]

If I have both can I use Analog Lab as a huge preset browser to see all my patches within all their synths in the collection?

[AdvancedFollower]

If I have both can I use Analog Lab as a huge preset browser to see all my patches within all their synths in the collection?

Yeah it's a great feature because you can focus on finding the right sound rather than thinking about which synth it was made with. Then if you want to tweak a preset you can open the full synth inside Analog Lab (provided you own the full synth). You can also set up splits and layers of multiple different synths and sounds in Analog Lab.

[MeanMrMustard]

Presets. Arturia used to include all the V Collection instrument presets with Analog Lab. They stopped doing that a couple of versions ago. You end up with a nice set of presets for the V Collection instruments.. but it is a subset.

I think this is the most relevant point right here. You do not get all the presets if you just own Analog Lab. You just get a subset. I had thought you did get all the presets, and just couldn't do a deep dive without the full synth. Which might have been fine as I'm a guitarist and would rather not spend hours tweaking sounds. I though the tweakabilty of Analog Lab would suffice.

Jdoo does mention that Arturia Analog Lab used to include all the presets, but no longer does.

So how does this work ? Do I have to have all the synths installed on my PC for Lab to see them and have them available to use within Lab. Or is it just having purchased all the synths enough and just having Lab installed allow me to use all the presets within Lab ?

[noiseboyuk]

So how does this work ? Do I have to have all the synths installed on my PC for Lab to see them and have them available to use within Lab. Or is it just having purchased all the synths enough and just having Lab installed allow me to use all the presets within Lab ?

Am pretty sure it's the latter. Of course the other benefit of installing the full synths is that you edit right from Analog Lab - you can't edit a synth you haven't installed.

Incidentally, those with earlier versions of a product which had separate presets (eg the CS-80) - if you install the earlier version as well and check the "show legacy presets", those presets show up in Analog Lab too.

[martiu]

if you need just a huge preset bank go with the Lab, if you are synth nerd like most of us here and you want to design your own sounds, get the synths, do now

[jdoo]

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So how does this work ? Do I have to have all the synths installed on my PC for Lab to see them and have them available to use within Lab. Or is it just having purchased all the synths enough and just having Lab installed allow me to use all the presets within Lab ?

IIRC.. You can see, and use the VC presets in Lab. Unless you have installed the instruments though - you can't launch/edit them. So.. you end up a lot more presets, if you have the collection.

[dune_rave]

with analog lab, you are quite limited in changing synth parameters. if thats ok for you, go with lab.

[Examigan]

Presets. Arturia used to include all the V Collection instrument presets with Analog Lab. They stopped doing that a couple of versions ago. You end up with a nice set of presets for the V Collection instruments.. but it is a subset.

I think this is the most relevant point right here. You do not get all the presets if you just own Analog Lab. You just get a subset. I had thought you did get all the presets, and just couldn't do a deep dive without the full synth. Which might have been fine as I'm a guitarist and would rather not spend hours tweaking sounds. I though the tweakabilty of Analog Lab would suffice.

Jdoo does mention that Arturia Analog Lab used to include all the presets, but no longer does.

So how does this work ? Do I have to have all the synths installed on my PC for Lab to see them and have them available to use within Lab. Or is it just having purchased all the synths enough and just having Lab installed allow me to use all the presets within Lab ?

Not sure how all of it works, but I did a little searching and found AL4 used to have 6,500 presets. The latest version has 2,000+. I only have AL Intro, and including some free banks that Arturia lets people have, plus a few extra banks I have (Vangelis banks and one or two others) I have 1,186 presets for it.

[jdoo]

Yep. From AL4 onward.. Arturia quit including all the instrument presets, and went with a subset. It's still nice to have.. but not nearly as nice, as when they included them all. If you have the whole collection - you get all the presets though.

[simon.a.billington]

I was making do with Lab for a while, occasionally buying preset collections from their website to expand on its sound library. It was a fairly workable solution.

The biggest problem I got is there were quite a few patches that had great core sounds but were drenched in too much delay and reverb, but no matter how much I changed the control it wouldn't affect the preset. Which is a shame. You really shouldn't back ambient into a preset as that limits its usefulness.

[trusampler]

The next version of Analog Lab really needs to start taking advantage of Arturia's FX Collection, they are so good. Also 4 instruments would be welcome vs the 2 currently. I'd rather them focus on perfecting Analog Lab's functionality vs creating a million more presets for it each release.

[seangm]

Not sure if this is common knowledge, sorry if it is but in case anyone doesn't know, you can import any Arturia synth bank into Analog Lab by just renaming the extension of the bank file (it will end in something like ".minix" or ".junx"). Just rename it to ".labx" and you can import it into Analog Lab.

Edit: I do this with Analog Lab Pro, not sure if it works with the free version but it might.