The Threat of A.I over Music.

[Ghlow]

I've been reading about the profound impact that AI's had on the arts, mainly the graphics/photography industry and I'm very concerned now about the negative impact that A.I could have on the music industry. What is your opinion on this?

[ghettosynth]

I would love it if AI improved the sound of the local "shit metal" band currently being formed by some youts in my neighborhood. I'm not sure if there are enough GPUs in the world to make that happen though.

[foosnark]

So far, the main negative impact AI has had is an increasing percentage of posts on music forums about AI.

The music industry was already awful. Thankfully I care a whole lot less about the "industry" of music than about actually making and listening to music, and AI does not really threaten either of those things.

[ghettosynth]

So far, the main negative impact AI has had is an increasing percentage of posts on music forums about AI.

Right, with generally nothing to say about it. I feel like this is one of those conversations like "what is your favorite plugin."

The music industry was already awful.

Pretty much, I was going to say something similar but decided not to be too negative. Thanks for taking one for the team!

[JerGoertz]

I've been reading about the profound impact that AI's had on the arts, mainly the graphics/photography industry and I'm very concerned now about the negative impact that A.I could have on the music industry. What is your opinion on this?

Serious question: Have you heard anything credible from music AI's? All I've heard is stuff that bordered on absolute cacophony, or dull, formulaic schlock. Now, there's no reason to think they won't get better if this is indeed the state of the art at the moment, but AI's musical chops might be significantly behind its prowess in the graphical arts.

So, uh, we might have a few more months to put out bangers before AI renders us all obsolete...

[Shinizzle]

My theory: Spotify will introduce a ai model which creates 2min ADHD bangers and proceeds to fill it's playlists with them until real artists are pushed out by the algorithms, the circle is then complete and the platform stalls in a perpetual circle of trite that slowly dies as more people grow out of it and it becomes the Cocomelon of the music industry.

And then Beringer creates an ai modular synth with each component based on personality types and everyone rejoices because it's cheap.

[funky lime]

I've been reading about the profound impact that AI's had on the arts, mainly the graphics/photography industry and I'm very concerned now about the negative impact that A.I could have on the music industry. What is your opinion on this?

Serious question: Have you heard anything credible from music AI's? All I've heard is stuff that bordered on absolute cacophony, or dull, formulaic schlock. Now, there's no reason to think they won't get better if this is indeed the state of the art at the moment, but AI's musical chops might be significantly behind its prowess in the graphical arts.

So, uh, we might have a few more months to put out bangers before AI renders us all obsolete...

Significantly behind graphics for now, yeah. But ai image generation has improved quite vastly in just the past year. Now midjourney images are everywhere, including audio plugin marketing material (and even ui assets).

I expect one year from now, AI will have very little trouble churning out formulaic music like car commercials and epic film trailers which would fool most non-musicians. Media composers will lose jobs, i'm certain of that.

Whether that is a net positive or negative for humanity and the arts is another story

Regardless, i dont see how any of this affects amateurs/hobbyists (i.e. people who create art because they like doing it, not for a paycheck). People keep saying it will kill music... you can kill music already by just selling your guitar and uninstalling your daw. You dont need a robot to kill it for you.

[GaryG]

Apparently Spotify already has whole ambient playlists generated 'generatively' which is just simple ai ultimately. It dilutes the genre for sure but people who genuinely like this stuff will go past that and still find the human artists doing interesting new stuff. Those who just want cool background music for their meditation or D&D sessions will be happy. So it's all down to commercialism again, cheap book publishers will use ai imagery on their text books and genre pulps, cheap movie producers will use ai imagery as concept art, cheap music producers will churn out ai videos maybe even the music itself...

But, whatever, the good stuff created by passionate individuals will still be there, the masses will still adore whatever is pushed at them, ai isn't that different from having inhouse songwriting teams, just cheaper for the guys at the top.

[harryupbabble]

i'm not worried
that kind of ai is not
what worried james cameron and stephen hawking

besides, lots of ai-like bands already exist
bands like kraftwerk and apex twins?
i'm just jokin', man

[FranklyFlawless]

Not concerned whatsoever.

[mgw38]

I've been reading about the profound impact that AI's had on the arts, mainly the graphics/photography industry and I'm very concerned now about the negative impact that A.I could have on the music industry. What is your opinion on this?

It's not a negative impact but an impact nonetheless. AI is a tool just like many others. AI will, however, change production workflows profoundly. To paraphrase a famous quote: AI is not the future, the future is music producers who know how to utilize AI in their productions.

I see a lot of people commenting with things like "I'm not worried", "AI music sucks", "I don't care" etc. These people are all missing the point. If you do not keep up with AI tool developments, you should be worried. In the same way you cannot be a music producer without knowing how to work with a DAW today, you will very soon no longer be able to be a music producer without knowing how to work with AI.

There are always exceptions to the rule, of course. But these are - well - exceptions.

[funky lime]

you should be worried

take a break from the news

[CrystalWizard]

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/ ... eepreading

[mgw38]

you should be worried

take a break from the news

I’m in higher ed and I’ve just co-authered our University’s policy in the use of AI in the classroom. This is the most profound paradigm shift I’ve seen in my lifetime. Personally, I find this extremely exciting.

People have probably seen the iconic recording of Kraftwerk’s first concert in 1970. This has the potential to create a similar moment of innovation.

[dasen]

What do you think the pros and cons of AI music technology will be in the near future?