Install a whammy bar on any guitar - without modifying guitar

[Uncle E]

You can put strips of cork inside of the springs. Variax players used to have to do that because the spring sound got into the piezo and the modeling. I don't know if the Wilkinson saddles work as well as the Vega but they're good enough for Pete Thorn (who goes hard on his whammy) and are almost 1/5 the cost.

[kevinsparks]

Duesenberg is the real thing, and cheaper. As long as it fits your guitar. No mods required.

Always interesting with new solutions, thanks.
https://www.duesenberg.de/en/guitars/starplayer-iii/

What fails to me is that no roller saddles, even though guitar equipped like that from start. So string will have to travel over bridge saddles. So a Tuneomatic, like a Schaller I had, with rollers possibly works.

But the feel of using it might be good, quite possible.

What is good about Strat tremolo is that the block with bridge saddles moves, strings does not need to. It stretches a bit at nut, but minimum at bridge.

Using this tuning technique strat stays really well in tune.



I had a Jazzmaster and that floating tremolo was built around that bridge pivoting/moved forward and back, not actuall move of strings in saddles. And the built in locking if a string breaks is rather good.

Roller bridge is absolutely vital, and it works great for me (tune-o-matic). I just got whatever the Duesenberg dealer threw in, no issues. The only peculiar thing I've noticed with the Les Trem is it made my SG louder acoustically. All that extra metal I suppose. A $225 accessory tho, so you're probably better off finding a guitar that already has a trem installed unless you're really married to one you already have. But I absolutely love it.

[lfm]

Thanks for input.

[CoolGuitarGear]

Had mine for a few days now. Very impressive (enjoy the V-Capo a lot)... and far more 'sonic' qualities than with my other guitars fitted with a trem/whammy (more 'soaring' in the notes). No comparison between this and the DigiTech Drop, unless you like wagging a foot treadle.

[lfm]

Had mine for a few days now. Very impressive (enjoy the V-Capo a lot)... and far more 'sonic' qualities than with my other guitars fitted with a trem/whammy (more 'soaring' in the notes). No comparison between this and the DigiTech Drop, unless you like wagging a foot treadle.

Thanks for feedback.

So The Drop is bad?

This Ronquillo guy had it first thing on pedal board, but convenience to drop for baryton and things as he said. Maybe close enough doing that.

Having nice guitars with good pickups one do not want that tone trashed completely. Especially not if just drop tuning and playing full songs like that.

If to look at whammy like wilkinson and Vtrem you are up around $200 or something. If V-jeff cost $500 and can be used on any guitar seems rather cool.

Things I experiment with Strat arm
- arm loose enough to catch without affecting pitch
- and not cause rattle vibrations from guitar otherwise

Are there any cool adjustments for V-jeff regarding how exactly arm is to be?

[CoolGuitarGear]

Had mine for a few days now. Very impressive (enjoy the V-Capo a lot)... and far more 'sonic' qualities than with my other guitars fitted with a trem/whammy (more 'soaring' in the notes). No comparison between this and the DigiTech Drop, unless you like wagging a foot treadle.

Thanks for feedback.

So The Drop is bad?

This Ronquillo guy had it first thing on pedal board, but convenience to drop for baryton and things as he said. Maybe close enough doing that.

Having nice guitars with good pickups one do not want that tone trashed completely. Especially not if just drop tuning and playing full songs like that.

If to look at whammy like wilkinson and Vtrem you are up around $200 or something. If V-jeff cost $500 and can be used on any guitar seems rather cool.

Things I experiment with Strat arm
- arm loose enough to catch without affecting pitch
- and not cause rattle vibrations from guitar otherwise

Are there any cool adjustments for V-jeff regarding how exactly arm is to be?

Not sure who you're addressing. The Drop is not bad, but I find the V-Capo on the Jeff superior sounding to my ears... and certainly most people can operate a whammy bar easier than a treadle on a pedal. I have two guitars with the bracket on them, so I can interchange them. Interestingly, you can use the V-Capo without the whammy part, since it's nothing more than pitch shifting, which means using that aspect on any guitar all together. One thing I will say, as I have a whammy on a Majesty, and previously a Floyd Rose on a Hellraiser with active pickups (sold it a few months back). This device, at least when playing hi-gain, is very SONIC. It soars and sings better than other guitars I have or had with a whammy. Maybe there's some type of preamp or boost in the controller pedal aspect, not sure... but very musical.

[lfm]

Not sure who you're addressing.

Any physical adjustments on arm
- friction to move it sideways, get arm up toward strings
- friction to whammy up/down
- any curves for how it acts, different close to zero or similar
- deadzone in center, some distance before something happends whammy up/down

is what I meant?

This device, at least when playing hi-gain, is very SONIC. It soars and sings better than other guitars I have or had with a whammy. Maybe there's some type of preamp or boost in the controller pedal aspect, not sure... but very musical.

That probably tells how accurate the algos are for pitchshifting, so all harmonics ends up in the right spot.

He talked quite a bit of improvements they did on this is the Ronquillo session.

The difference using cheap pitchshifting plugins that do nothing and using something like Melodyne etc. Something to do with distance of harmonics that must change as pitch is changing to preserve as much as possible of original timbre of tone. If not you get lots of artifacts, since a harmonic is not in the right spot i.e. an octave of a fundamental is not exactly x2, x3 gets even worse sounding since odd in original tone already.
- a violin has a certain amount of x2 partial, another x3 partial and so forth
- these are to be a certain distance from fundamental pitch
- if you just move all frequencies the same amount, this code is broken and relationship between fundamental and partials does not line up
- you get non-natural harmonics one could say

Especially at high gain distortion as you noticed, if harmonics are not right in relation to fundamental you create new harmonics of stuff not in the right spot to begin with. Really harsch sounding.

The math to do these things right is like a holy grail.
- some college kids formed Softube developing some good math for this
- and built a company on that knowhow
- they licensed some algos that Fender used for modelling amps etc
- really cool

This is how I understood it.