Waves Platinum This is crazy

[noiseboyuk]

I'd get absolutely zero value out of it, but I already have a LOT of plugins. But at least you went in knowing what the deal was and made an informed decision. Hope you enjoy them.

FWIW here's what I use:

C1 - use this all the time. No fuss, works, low cpu.
Doppler - occasional post use
Eddie Kramer drums - have tried this a coupla times, quite like
EMO Generator - I don't have a cross-platform generator and sometimes need one so...
H-Delay - ubiquitous for me, like the C1.
IR-L - not as much use as the C1, but a solid IR player mostly for post when you need a ton of instances because, again, low CPU.
Lo Air - used to use tons, superceded to a large degree by Submarine
Maxx Bass - one of the few unique plugins, when you need it it is essential
Metafilter - underused by me cos I like it.
One Knob Pumper - occasional quick and easy use
PS22 Stereo Maker - a lot of use
Rennaisance Reverb - another C1, use it everywhere. Really solid decent sounding low CPU workhorse. Not for showy stuff.
S1 - use all the time
Sibilance - occasional
Smack Attack - LOVE IT. It's my most reached-for transient plug.
Submarine - fab
Vitamin - occasional use for frequency-dependent spatialisation

So I do get fair use out of it (though I'm on Horizon now). A 50/50 mix of low cpu workhorses and fancier stuff.

[sjm]

Which part?

https://www.waves.com/support/waves-update-plan

Waves Update Plan Benefits:

FREE 2ND LICENSE OPTION 1
Get second licenses for your covered plugins and bundles, for use on different devices

...if you want a second license, Waves themselves are saying you need a WUP.

More information confirming that here:

https://www.waves.com/support/using-wav ... -computers

Waves offers a free 2nd license for any plugin or bundle covered by the Waves Update Plan, to be used on different computers, without having to move licenses between devices.

Even if you don’t have a 2nd license for a product, you can move any Waves license back and forth between different computers as often as you like. (Just make sure that your different computers are compatible) This can be done with any Waves licenses – no matter whether it’s your main license or your 2nd license for that product.

...so yes, if you have 2 computers your options are: 1) make sure you're covered under a WUP at all times (basically becoming a subscription), or 2) transfer back and forth between the 2 PC's (inconvenient), or 3) buy 2 licenses one for each PC (doubling upfront costs).

The easiest way with 2 computers - presuming you don't need to use both at the same time - is a USB stick with the licenses on it. Then it's a simple as removing it from one PC and inserting it in the other. Not ideal, but a lot less hassle than going through Waves Central each time.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The easiest way with 2 computers - presuming you don't need to use both at the same time - is a USB stick with the licenses on it. Then it's a simple as removing it from one PC and inserting it in the other. Not ideal, but a lot less hassle than going through Waves Central each time.

Ok, I'll accept that's valid as option 4 (or 2B) but it's still sh*tty and inconvenient. So I'd basically have a Waves only dongle. No thanks.

[billcarroll]

I wouldn't buy another Waves bundle or plugin for even $1.

[Teksonik]

Never upgraded or updated, because all plugins still work fine after many years

So does that mean you're still using versions of the plugins that are "many years" old?

They still work but do you have the latest features, bug fixes, and quality of sound updates?

If you're saying there were no new features, bug fixes and/or quality of sound updates worth paying for in all those years then you've just declared that WUP is nothing more than a money grab that provides nothing of substance to those who pay to ride the WUP train.

[noiseboyuk]

The easiest way with 2 computers - presuming you don't need to use both at the same time - is a USB stick with the licenses on it. Then it's a simple as removing it from one PC and inserting it in the other. Not ideal, but a lot less hassle than going through Waves Central each time.

That'll probably work for some, but not me. For my main rig I don't mind having a dozen dongles, but not with the laptop where it's always a hassle and a physical risk. It's a cast iron rule for me.

Waves Central could be made much better in this regard if you had 2 registered computers. It could do an online/offline check on the other, and if it found it was offline it could allow an instant license switch. I'd be okay with that despite it being a slight pain and it does rely on the internet being available.

IIRC Waves Central doesn't work that way, you are very limited in moving the licenses around.

[noiseboyuk]

Never upgraded or updated, because all plugins still work fine after many years

So does that mean you're still using versions of the plugins that are "many years" old?

They still work but do you have the latest features, bug fixes, and quality of sound updates?

If you're saying there were no new features, bug fixes and/or quality of sound updates worth paying for in all those years then you've just declared that WUP is nothing more than a money grab that provides nothing of substance to those who pay to ride the WUP train.

I'm not the poster, but I have v10 plugs on my Windows main rig and they work perfectly. There have been some updates I believe like resizing and sometimes new GUIs but not really fussed - nothing that affects basic operation or sound.

The WUP has but one essential function - new versions if an OS change requires it. Much more of a deal on macs, I've upgraded my mac bundle just recently so it's silicon native compatible. Yes you also get 2nd licenses, but to pay the WUP every year to get that benefit makes little sense when 2nd permanent licenses can be cheaper than even one year's WUP when getting sale upgrades.

[revvy]

Surely this thread needs a rabid anti-Apple-user rant, posted under the guise of “telling it like it is”?

J/k.

On topic: I like a lot of Waves plugins. And as much as I hate and try to avoid WUP, I do respect Waves for having such a huge back catalogue of still-maintained stuff. Massive range, still going strong.

[egbert101]

Apple users...

[martinjuenke]

Die übliche Kinderkacke mal wieder...

[kritikon]

Must admit I've generally avoided Waves like the plague, so dunno the intricacies. You can just get WUP occasionally for important updates (like OS or 32 -> 64 bit etc) and it'll update all your Waves plugins, then you can drop WUP until you need it again in a few years? I always assumed WUP was subscription only. TBH I avoided them mostly historically when they were well known as a bunch of Danish/English medieval kings that demonstrated how you can't resist nature. IMO once a medieval Danish/English king, always a medieval Danish/English king, but I suppose a leopard can get a haircut to hide its spots...(does a leopard have spots on its skin?)

Dunno, might have to look into Waves again.

[elassi]

Review from 2009, just quoting the conclusion (the review itself consists of three parts to cover every plugin):

"Writing an Amazona review with such a comprehensive plugin package is a bit foolhardy. Of course, this test cannot be as detailed as a test of the plug-ins individually. Nevertheless, or precisely because of this, special attention should be paid to the conclusion, on my part.
The design sometimes looks a bit "antiquated" and is not always attractive, especially in terms of ergonomics. All in all, the plug-ins make a useful impression, you can work with them. Is that enough? I'm not sure about this! The price is relatively high, even for the native bundle. If you compare the price with UAD and Powercore, you'll start thinking. Especially since this solution also provides additional DSP power. I even like many solutions on UAD and Powercore much better than what Waves is launching. And by that I don't necessarily just mean the optics. Especially in times when DAWs already come with so many good plug-ins, the question of Wave's objective seems justified. Please don't get me wrong, the plug-ins tested here are really good, but not outstanding, according to my understanding. I find the linear phase equalizer and, to some extent, the Stereo Imager S1 to be outstanding. If you don't have any additional plug-ins in your DAW and want an all-round carefree package, you may find what you're looking for here (of course only after extensive testing with the demo version that Waves has on the homepage). From my point of view, however, I cannot recommend the bundle unreservedly.
The really large selection that Waves makes available in this bundle is also interesting. On the other hand, it's almost overwhelming at times, since many plug-ins are too similar (especially in the compressor sector) and you quickly become a plug-in scout instead of bringing the mix forward."

Source: https://www-amazona-de.translate.goog/t ... r_pto=wapp

And remember, those plugins were coded for CPUs of the 00s years. That's why they are so lightweight on contemporary machines. May still sound good though, can't tell.

[noiseboyuk]

Must admit I've generally avoided Waves like the plague, so dunno the intricacies. You can just get WUP occasionally for important updates (like OS or 32 -> 64 bit etc) and it'll update all your Waves plugins, then you can drop WUP until you need it again in a few years?

This has been answered a few times in this thread, but in short - yes. Scroll up for more info.

[Harry_HH]

Plugindiscounts offers Waves Platinum
for USD 75!!!
About 60 plugins will cover most of
the plugins you will ever need.
https://www.waves.com/bundles/platinum

https://plugindiscounts.com/product/platinum-native-2/

"most of the plugins you will ever need.."

Most of the the plugins you never need, for me.
Those which I need of the 60, I already own.

[sqigls]

if you paid me $75 i still wouldn't use any of them