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YnJ wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:00 am I was thinking of getting a couple.
Hi, I think the experience is subjective and relational to trying out each guitar before you buy. I was working overseas for 6 months in 2007 and i went to the local guitar shop and purchased a sunburst chinese-made squire strat with the intention of leaving the thing behind when i returned home. I didn't. I liked the sound of the wood body so much acoustically, i eventually stopped playing all of my other guitars.

However, i have changed a lot.

The bridge was the worst factor and did not intonate, so i dropped in a wilkinson replacement. And this of all the changes, was the wow factor; I never before realised how bad a bridge could be.

I didn't like the electrics, I thought the pickups sounded brittle, but I don't like the electric sound of strats anyway, so that might just be my prejudice, and if not for the thing being cheap, i never would have bought a fender style guitar in the first place. I created a new soundboard or whatever the plastic thingy is called that holds the pots and pickups, and i replaced the electrics with a p90 Les Paul circuit.

I have a new neck, 2 actually, but i have never put these on . . . yet . . . one day maybe, when i can let the thing go long enough to allow a luthier to make the change.

The guy who sold me the guitar said the tuners were dodgy, and i have a new set here, but again, as with the new neck, they haven't been put on. I gave the screw that adjusts pressure on the plastic bush a crank on each tuner the first day i got the guitar and i have never had any issues with the guitar going out of tune even though the tuners are cheapies. I play with flatwound 10s.

I think the most important thing is to try before you buy. If the shop has 10 to choose from, try all 10.

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YnJ wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:00 am I was thinking of getting a couple.
Getting a couple, like 2, 3 or more? What's your motivation?

If you're having something akin midlife-crisis: go ahead, knock yourself out. It's cheaper than a sports car and safer than a motorcycle. Enjoy the rush for the short time it lasts.

Otherwise: think again. This is very othogonal to how I think a collection (of guitars, synths, pedals, amps, plugins) should be built up, which is slowly. Very slowly.

Allow youself time to intimitely learn what you bought and bond with it. Then you have a better understanding of what to look for in the next addition.

Otherwise it's just quantity over quality, and you'll have halve a dozen guitars that mean nothing to you.
YnJ wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:48 am I'm a tad curious about the Mustang, is it just a short scale Strat?
Not really...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Mustang
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Appreciate the info about the Mustang. As for you phsychological evaluation of my motivations I feel you missed the mark, there's at least one more motivation for getting perhaps as many as five Squire guitars, in addition to the Bass VI already ordered. The last one falls outside of your evaluation anyway, as I needed a bass for home recording, I don't own a bass, so this was for purely practical reasons

Mid-life crisis? No, such a first world problem, haven't had one yet. I did own a sports car once though, when I was young. I like sport cars, it's such a money drain though and you start to worry about getting the paint scratched

The excitement I get from a new guitar lasts for years for me, I can't even tell you how long as I have no guitars which doesn't make me feel excited when I pick them up. Perhaps with exception of the oldest guitar I own, as it is worn out from playing and need a complete overhaul. The frets and the fingerboard are worn down from playing, and I don't know what to do with fingerboard. I feel I need to ship it off to a workshop to get it fixed, which ruins the excitement for me

Collection? I'm afraid I don't really understand you here. What is this about "bonding"? It's just a thing, why should they mean that much to me?

I'll let you into my motivation for getting a couple or five Squire guitars. Now all these classic names are just names to me, I want to experience what they are like playing and what they sound like, and even if I end up selling all of them later at a point the experience and knowledge I get from it is well worth the money
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YnJ wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:48 am I'm a tad curious about the Mustang, is it just a short scale Strat?
Kind of? Mustang pickups are usually lower output and on the thinner side. The short scale and vibrato mean it plays differently than a Strat. In fact the vibrato is closer to a Jazzmaster's but not nearly as nice. So, it's sort of its own thing but closer to a Strat than a Tele, for example.

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GuyaGuy wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:19 pm
YnJ wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:48 am I'm a tad curious about the Mustang, is it just a short scale Strat?
Kind of? Mustang pickups are usually lower output and on the thinner side. The short scale and vibrato mean it plays differently than a Strat. In fact the vibrato is closer to a Jazzmaster's but not nearly as nice. So, it's sort of its own thing but closer to a Strat than a Tele, for example.
Thanks! I read there was a version with 22.5" scale neck, I can only find Mustangs with 24" scale necks sold where I usually get my guitars. That might make enough of a difference though, as I usually play guitars with 25.5" necks

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I'll add to the chorus and say I'm really impressed with my Paranormal series baritone telecaster. Tuners are stable, no sharp fret edges, neck feels nice. It's pretty much a perfect execution of a basic design.

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What about considering an cheaper, better spec'd alternative.
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Nah, I don't think so. Nothing so cheap I need to replace tuners or pick ups even for home use

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kevinsparks wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:23 pm I'll add to the chorus and say I'm really impressed with my Paranormal series baritone telecaster. Tuners are stable, no sharp fret edges, neck feels nice. It's pretty much a perfect execution of a basic design.
I think if you stick to the "high end" series, Paranormal, Contemporary and Classic Vibes, you'll get a lot of guitar for your money. I got my Classic Vibes Jaguar and it feels and pretty much sounds like a full price Fender Jaguar. Great sound, even with the stock pick ups, and super fun to play

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I'll probably pick up a couple more Classic Vibes guitars, perhaps at least one Contemporary, and perhaps a Paranormal as well

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I’ve had a classic vibe tele for over ten years. Fantastic guitar! Neck is a little on the thin side but very playable and sounds great. The only mod I did was a new bridge pickup just because the old one died.

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Consistently impressed with Classic Vibe quality, have played worse MIM Fender.

From a small sample set, Vintage Modified don't hold up quite as well. Not tried Supernatural or Contemporary Active, some of them look interesting!

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imrae wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:35 am Consistently impressed with Classic Vibe quality, have played worse MIM Fender.
I've played worse American made Fenders. Granted, even really cheap guitars seems to be made better now than full priced guitars were made in the 70's and 80's

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