Baby Audio Transit - Ultimate Transition Designer in collabration w/ Andrew Huang

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bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pm I think you guys are missing the point. It's about the super easy morphing and setting up of the morphing for a single knob.
That's correct, absolutely.
bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pmThere are of course tons of other multi-effects but no easy way to quickly morph between a ton of settings for a ton of effects simultaneously, and more importantly, whole "preset sets".
That's what I'd like to discuss.
bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pmWith the twist of a single knob you can go from a crazy freeze delay that is bitcrushed and pitched 12 semitones up to something completely different and then yet again to something completely different.. with ONE knob. That is the point.
The point is called "Dictator" in Turnado.
bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pmIndeed the closest to this is Sugar Bytes Turnado but it's much more difficult to setup and has much less control over the morphing.
Complicate/difficult to setup: yes, you're right :tu:
Less control over morphing: hell, no, look at the vid below :phones:

Hint: It only shows the parameters of FX #2 ...

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elassi wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:18 pm Complicate/difficult to setup: yes, you're right :tu:
Less control over morphing: hell, no, look at the vid below :phones:

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I own Turnado since it's release. I know _Exactly_ how it works and what can be done. Yes it DOES have less control over the morphing.

What you are morphing in Turnado is a single macro knob.. what you are morphing in Transit is every single effect parameter of every single effect. That makes a big difference in terms of control.

You could sort of do this in Turnado by assigning the same effect to multiple fx slots and giving each macro slightly different parameters and then scan through that with the dictator.. but yeah, you can imagine how unsatisfyingly time consuming that is to setup.

Don't get me wrong though, Turnado is awesome and can do some very complex things (in some respects it can do much more than Transit), but it really is quite long in the tooth when it comes to user interface and usability. Sugarbytes have never been all that good at making intuitive and easy to use interfaces.
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Ok, @bmanic, I should try the BA-plug first before responding. Atm I'm just judging from the video.

I know you are a no-nonsense guy, because since the Fabfilter Timeless delay reached my hard disk I know your 'name' because of the presets you made (and I love).

But still ... hm, I have to check. ;-)

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It's like a more tweak-able Endless Smile....
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martiu wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:08 pm i think you can do this with multipass and snap heap
I think so, too. And I would like to add that it is also super easy to set up one knob which controls multiple fx parameters (of even more than seven effects) in multipass.
But I like the randomization features of this plugin to generate new ideas.

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random dice is always fun in plugins
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Huang is brilliant and this plugin looks v cool.
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Comparing to turnado, in Reaper, when turnado's effects are not engaged they do not use cpu. Transit continues to use CPU even when not in use.

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This thing is exactly what I’ve been wanting for years. Instabuy.

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bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pm I think you guys are missing the point. It's about the super easy morphing and setting up of the morphing for a single knob. There are of course tons of other multi-effects but no easy way to quickly morph between a ton of settings for a ton of effects simultaneously, and more importantly, whole "preset sets".

With the twist of a single knob you can go from a crazy freeze delay that is bitcrushed and pitched 12 semitones up to something completely different and then yet again to something completely different.. with ONE knob. That is the point.

Indeed the closest to this is Sugar Bytes Turnado but it's much more difficult to setup and has much less control over the morphing.
You could also use Bitwig, which opens the possibility to do precisely this with pretty much _any_ parameter of any effect _on any track_ with the macro modulators etc.

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Liero wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:23 am
bmanic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:56 pm I think you guys are missing the point. It's about the super easy morphing and setting up of the morphing for a single knob. There are of course tons of other multi-effects but no easy way to quickly morph between a ton of settings for a ton of effects simultaneously, and more importantly, whole "preset sets".

With the twist of a single knob you can go from a crazy freeze delay that is bitcrushed and pitched 12 semitones up to something completely different and then yet again to something completely different.. with ONE knob. That is the point.

Indeed the closest to this is Sugar Bytes Turnado but it's much more difficult to setup and has much less control over the morphing.
You could also use Bitwig, which opens the possibility to do precisely this with pretty much _any_ parameter of any effect _on any track_ with the macro modulators etc.
But is it a single point and click? I've never used Bitwig so I have absolutely no idea how it works.

I mean, you can do this exact same thing in Reaper as well, setting up a parameter to modulate or morph tons of effects on any track, but assigning this is not easy nor quick at all.

Same thing in FL Studio, you can DO all of this, but it's not trivial nor easy and quick to setup.

Also true for Ableton Live (which is the sequencer of choice for Andrew Huang).
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Exactly, the workflow is the appeal with this plugin.

You could do something like this in Ableton with an effect Rack but it would take forever. Same with most DAWS.

But none of them would enable you to set up this amount of effects this quickly.

I think Baby Audio's recent plugins have great UX and UI and this is another example of that.

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Workflow is cool but the price to pay is that you have to use the built-in effects. If I wanted to use, let's say valhalla vintageverb instead of the built-in reverb I'd still have to go the old-school automation route, or am I misunderstanding the plugin? Doesn't this make their own plugins like crystalline, comeback kid, etc. obsolete as well?
Edit: Just to clarify: I don't want to understate the massive unprecedented workflow improvements this plugin does. It's worth checking out at least.
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That is indeed the trade-off. Having said that, it sounds to me like the effects in Transit are of pretty high quality, which is something I can't say for the Elektron Octatrack where most of them are really weird and quirky and some of them down right bad.. yet people find interesting ways of using them.

For exciting transitions, meaning sudden fade in to infinite delay + reverb wash + filtering, you don't really need "good" sounding effects. You just need the transition to happen and create excitement into the drop. For this task I suspect Transit is really good and all the effects good enough quality. Here the main thing is always workflow and how quickly you can setup interesting combinations while you are in the flow (or even while performing live).

As a multi-effect for creating interesting layering for various sounds, is it good enough to replace your other plugins? I have no idea. Maybe? Maybe not.
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Hi, Does anyone know if the paid version remembers the colour and size of the gui you choose?
The Demo version doesn't in Cubendo on mac intel, but may be a demo restriction.
I am trying to find out how to midi learn the knobs (especially the transit), it doesn't even appear in the midi out option in Cubendo (where you can send midi commands to insert effects).
thanks
rsp

edit: Found the manual.. seems you can only midi learn the dice?
- Finally, click the “Randomize Midi Assign” button if you want to assign a midi trigger to the Dice icon. ‘DAW’ mode will allow you to map a midi trigger, ‘ON’ mode will allow you to randomize with both the assigned midi and the Dice icon, while ‘OFF’ mode will keep your mapping saved, but prevent the midi from triggering the randomization. It is important to note that you can’t click on the Dice to randomize while this button is in ‘DAW’ mode.
what the..

Surely the Global Macro aka Transition Control is begging to be triggered by midi.
rsp
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