alternative to asio4all please

[RunBeerRun]

I've found that asio4all doesnt work well with audio cards that already have a driver(your presonus card)

so trying to use a usb mic with splitting the output using asio4all into your presonus will work horribly only.

You should get better results using the usb mic with your onboard built in soundcard and asio4all.

There are no alternatives as flexasio uses 20ms in/20msout latency which is really high.

Wasapi has a shared mode that can split your inputs and outputs, if you have a host that has access to wasapi. Results with onboard soundcard are pretty good and low latency, it'll pop and crackle with your presonus.

[anevva]

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There are no alternatives as flexasio uses 20ms in/20msout latency which is really high.

Wasapi has a shared mode that can split your inputs and outputs, if you have a host that has access to wasapi.

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Interesting what you say about the input latency of Flex ASIO.
I just only heard about FlexASIO today so I thought I'd try it out. Got pretty good results. My soundcards are not attached at the moment so all this is just internal audio stuff.

What I found was that Flex ASIO is a very good compromise between ASIO4ALL and FLStudio ASIO. In fact, it actually halves the amount of CPU used for a lot of projects I quickly tested on (plus in a couple of different DAWs). So it is definitely worth using. I didn't find it increased input latency as you said, but I'm sure that's just because we have different systems.

If you want to use Flex ASIO then you really need to install the FlexASIO GUI for it as well. The download is pointed to there on the Git hub page. I used it to set the buffer size to "512" as it seemed to default to 1024. This made the test a lot more equal.

These are some screenshots I took in Ableton Live.

ASIO4ALL -




FLStudio ASIO -




FlexASIO -




FlexASIO GUI




As you can see, ASIO4ALL has the least amount of latency at 13.6ms. FLStudio ASIO has the most amount of input and output latency. FlexASIO has the best compromise between these all, only bettered by the output latency of ASIO4ALL.

I have to admit, I don't really know what these input/output latency figures mean. I just connect up my sound cards when doing a bit more serious recording and they kind of just work. I don't really record IN to the machine on its internal soundcard. So it makes sense just to have that switched off.

So for me, considering that Flex ASIO is actually halving my CPU usage, it's a very good compromise indeed. FLStudio ASIO also halves CPU usage on this machine, but as you can see it has much higher input/output latency.

There's no free lunch when it comes to the laws of physics and of round trip latency and all that, I suppose. But this does seem to be a small step up. Granted, this test machine is old now (I don't really want to mess about with this on my main production machine), but these initial tests are quite encouraging.

Every day is a school day, as they say. I'm going to be using this a bit more and testing it out to see if it's stable, and if so, I'll be happy to put it on to my main computer. *

Previously, I've had both Steinberg and Magix official drivers hose my entire system needing a full restore from backup. Both were catastrophic, as in wiping out the entire audio subsystem on my computer.

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Be very wary when messing with 3rd party audio drivers even from official sources. You are pretty safe with ASIO4ALL, but Steinberg Multi-Client and Magix Low Latency can entirely wipe your audio system out.

[MJACau]

this asio4all is buggy as hell for me
i’ve moved to a laptop setup with no need for an audio interface as i use a usb mic for vocals

but asio4all is a pain in the ass ( ass for the americans )

it’s buggy and slow as hell when i change settings in presonus

are there any good modern alternatives on windows 10 cheers

Hardware and it's own ASIO driver will always trump any other software solution in Windows, most small USB Interfaces get power from the USB so no extra power needed.
Presonus AudioBox GO or any cheap USB Audio Interfaces will come with it's own low latency ASIO driver to use.

[legendCNCD]

Buy a real soundcard with good drivers.

[umd]

Mr. Michael Tippach ( the developer of ASIO4ALL ) did a supreme work with ASIO4ALL ( to the extent of what it is possible, of course that if you buy a cheap soundcard, you cannot expect any miracles ).

[rod_zero]

1.- You need ASIo drivers for music software in windows, not really optional.
2.- USB Mics are not designed to use with a DAW and don't come with an ASIO driver, so they are one of the worst ideas to record music.
3.- Get a an audio interface, maybe the Steinberg UR12, and a normal mic.

There is no way to fix your problem with software, ASIO4all, Flex ASIO and FL ASIO are all middle of the road solutions that kind of reduce latency but adding a USB Mic makes them way more inefficient when handling I/O.

[wpostma]

USB microphones are trash. ASIO4ALL is not your problem. OP attitude towards audio interfaces are the problem.

You do need an audio interface.

[questionaire]

USB microphones are trash. ASIO4ALL is not your problem. OP attitude towards audio interfaces are the problem.

You do need an audio interface.

And only use windows for office tasks

[Vocalpoint Studios]

this asio4all is buggy as hell for me i’ve moved to a laptop setup with no need for an audio interface as i use a usb mic for vocals

Ironically - there are plenty of very low-cost Presonus options for a "real" audio interface that will really shine with Studio One.

If you cannot consider say - an AudioBox Go - and solve your issues for no more than a 100 bucks -

https://www.presonus.com/en/interfaces/ ... 00106.html

you may want to ask yourself why you record in the first place.

VP