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liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:08 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:43 am
liquidsound wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:44 pm [...]
Obviously it’s an issue that you can prevent before buying the software or dealing with the dilemma if the policy changes “after” the purchase. The dilemma is only really experienced if the worse scenario eventually unfolds while you are using it.

So you either switch “now” to prevent something that “will” or “will not” happen, or you switch later when the dilemma comes into existence.

So… why switching earlier (without facts) rather than when it’s real?
The outcome is the same but one is based on speculations.
If I understand you correctly, you suggest to wait and see if a bad thing happens to you, instead of trying to prevent it?

If so, I can think of a country right now in which, for the last 30 years, people seem to have thought along those lines. Now they are learning the hard way about the importance (and various meanings of) being an independent state, capable of looking after and defending their own interests within their internationally recognized borders.

Supposedly, a wise person/tribe/etc. would want to avoid getting into arrangements which are not beneficial to them, instead of waiting for unpleasant things to happen to them.
Albeit, nowadays I seriously wonder whether a large portion of any human population is somehow unavoidably predisposed to short-term stupidity and herd mentality comparable to that of prey animals; with capacity to learn (in the sense of acquiring long-term wisdom) tied to having personally experienced various downsides of life - if even then.
The only minor difference here, based on your essay, is that we are talking about a DAW rather than the destiny of civilization.

Many of us left the plane while those companies are still here giving activations.

Relax… :party:
The pattern of human behavior is comparable in those cases, in context of your questions.

Another aspect is that in some sense, having to at all activate a tool you paid for is a case of "guilty until proven innocent".

That's literally what happens when you have to activate an app like Ableton Live or FL Studio (v21+): you are considered a thief by default, and only after activation you are considered not a thief.

Many of us are so used to it happening that questioning it does not even come to mind. And even as this sentence is being read, arguments about how I am blowing it out of proportions and/or specific context - and how it supposedly cannot be any other way - are forming in minds of some readers. To pre-empt some of the silliness: I know why that is, and I'm not expecting it to change in the near future.

But the phenomenon is worth thinking about. Is it good, in the long run, to allow things like that to become permanent threads in the fabric of our societies?

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Or to put it another way, is it really a good idea to build our world on technology that has unnecessary single points of failure built in as a feature, not a bug? Humanity has become incredibly enamoured with these of late.

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N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:33 pm
liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:08 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:43 am
liquidsound wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:44 pm [...]
Obviously it’s an issue that you can prevent before buying the software or dealing with the dilemma if the policy changes “after” the purchase. The dilemma is only really experienced if the worse scenario eventually unfolds while you are using it.

So you either switch “now” to prevent something that “will” or “will not” happen, or you switch later when the dilemma comes into existence.

So… why switching earlier (without facts) rather than when it’s real?
The outcome is the same but one is based on speculations.
If I understand you correctly, you suggest to wait and see if a bad thing happens to you, instead of trying to prevent it?

If so, I can think of a country right now in which, for the last 30 years, people seem to have thought along those lines. Now they are learning the hard way about the importance (and various meanings of) being an independent state, capable of looking after and defending their own interests within their internationally recognized borders.

Supposedly, a wise person/tribe/etc. would want to avoid getting into arrangements which are not beneficial to them, instead of waiting for unpleasant things to happen to them.
Albeit, nowadays I seriously wonder whether a large portion of any human population is somehow unavoidably predisposed to short-term stupidity and herd mentality comparable to that of prey animals; with capacity to learn (in the sense of acquiring long-term wisdom) tied to having personally experienced various downsides of life - if even then.
The only minor difference here, based on your essay, is that we are talking about a DAW rather than the destiny of civilization.

Many of us left the plane while those companies are still here giving activations.

Relax… :party:
The pattern of human behavior is comparable in those cases, in context of your questions.

Another aspect is that in some sense, having to at all activate a tool you paid for is a case of "guilty until proven innocent".

That's literally what happens when you have to activate an app like Ableton Live or FL Studio (v21+): you are considered a thief by default, and only after activation you are considered not a thief.

Many of us are so used to it happening that questioning it does not even come to mind. And even as this sentence is being read, arguments about how I am blowing it out of proportions and/or specific context - and how it supposedly cannot be any other way - are forming in minds of some readers. To pre-empt some of the silliness: I know why that is, and I'm not expecting it to change in the near future.

But the phenomenon is worth thinking about. Is it good, in the long run, to allow things like that to become permanent threads in the fabric of our societies?
Again….
Live in the present moment. It doesn’t last long. Make the best out of it.
Action is everything.
Just “dream” your dream.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:14 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:33 pm
liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:08 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:43 am
liquidsound wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:44 pm [...]
Obviously it’s an issue that you can prevent before buying the software or dealing with the dilemma if the policy changes “after” the purchase. The dilemma is only really experienced if the worse scenario eventually unfolds while you are using it.

So you either switch “now” to prevent something that “will” or “will not” happen, or you switch later when the dilemma comes into existence.

So… why switching earlier (without facts) rather than when it’s real?
The outcome is the same but one is based on speculations.
If I understand you correctly, you suggest to wait and see if a bad thing happens to you, instead of trying to prevent it?

If so, I can think of a country right now in which, for the last 30 years, people seem to have thought along those lines. Now they are learning the hard way about the importance (and various meanings of) being an independent state, capable of looking after and defending their own interests within their internationally recognized borders.

Supposedly, a wise person/tribe/etc. would want to avoid getting into arrangements which are not beneficial to them, instead of waiting for unpleasant things to happen to them.
Albeit, nowadays I seriously wonder whether a large portion of any human population is somehow unavoidably predisposed to short-term stupidity and herd mentality comparable to that of prey animals; with capacity to learn (in the sense of acquiring long-term wisdom) tied to having personally experienced various downsides of life - if even then.
The only minor difference here, based on your essay, is that we are talking about a DAW rather than the destiny of civilization.

Many of us left the plane while those companies are still here giving activations.

Relax… :party:
The pattern of human behavior is comparable in those cases, in context of your questions.

Another aspect is that in some sense, having to at all activate a tool you paid for is a case of "guilty until proven innocent".

That's literally what happens when you have to activate an app like Ableton Live or FL Studio (v21+): you are considered a thief by default, and only after activation you are considered not a thief.

Many of us are so used to it happening that questioning it does not even come to mind. And even as this sentence is being read, arguments about how I am blowing it out of proportions and/or specific context - and how it supposedly cannot be any other way - are forming in minds of some readers. To pre-empt some of the silliness: I know why that is, and I'm not expecting it to change in the near future.

But the phenomenon is worth thinking about. Is it good, in the long run, to allow things like that to become permanent threads in the fabric of our societies?
Again….
Live in the present moment. It doesn’t last long. Make the best out of it.
Action is everything.
Just “dream” your dream.
Living the present doesn't mean you have to forgot tomorrow, otherwise you would eat, drink and do whatever like the apocalypse is tomorrow. You soon end to be sick that way.

Live the present, sure, but without doing it as a fool i'd suggest.

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Frankie.T wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:33 am
liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:14 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:33 pm
liquidsound wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:08 pm
N__K wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:43 am
liquidsound wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:44 pm [...]
Obviously it’s an issue that you can prevent before buying the software or dealing with the dilemma if the policy changes “after” the purchase. The dilemma is only really experienced if the worse scenario eventually unfolds while you are using it.

So you either switch “now” to prevent something that “will” or “will not” happen, or you switch later when the dilemma comes into existence.

So… why switching earlier (without facts) rather than when it’s real?
The outcome is the same but one is based on speculations.
If I understand you correctly, you suggest to wait and see if a bad thing happens to you, instead of trying to prevent it?

If so, I can think of a country right now in which, for the last 30 years, people seem to have thought along those lines. Now they are learning the hard way about the importance (and various meanings of) being an independent state, capable of looking after and defending their own interests within their internationally recognized borders.

Supposedly, a wise person/tribe/etc. would want to avoid getting into arrangements which are not beneficial to them, instead of waiting for unpleasant things to happen to them.
Albeit, nowadays I seriously wonder whether a large portion of any human population is somehow unavoidably predisposed to short-term stupidity and herd mentality comparable to that of prey animals; with capacity to learn (in the sense of acquiring long-term wisdom) tied to having personally experienced various downsides of life - if even then.
The only minor difference here, based on your essay, is that we are talking about a DAW rather than the destiny of civilization.

Many of us left the plane while those companies are still here giving activations.

Relax… :party:
The pattern of human behavior is comparable in those cases, in context of your questions.

Another aspect is that in some sense, having to at all activate a tool you paid for is a case of "guilty until proven innocent".

That's literally what happens when you have to activate an app like Ableton Live or FL Studio (v21+): you are considered a thief by default, and only after activation you are considered not a thief.

Many of us are so used to it happening that questioning it does not even come to mind. And even as this sentence is being read, arguments about how I am blowing it out of proportions and/or specific context - and how it supposedly cannot be any other way - are forming in minds of some readers. To pre-empt some of the silliness: I know why that is, and I'm not expecting it to change in the near future.

But the phenomenon is worth thinking about. Is it good, in the long run, to allow things like that to become permanent threads in the fabric of our societies?
Again….
Live in the present moment. It doesn’t last long. Make the best out of it.
Action is everything.
Just “dream” your dream.
Living the present doesn't mean you have to forgot tomorrow, otherwise you would eat, drink and do whatever like the apocalypse is tomorrow. You soon end to be sick that way.

Live the present, sure, but without doing it as a fool i'd suggest.
Living in the present is to live a full, intense life. Nothing to do with being blind.
I own a healthy medium business but if I can’t be in the present moment I will never know where I’m going.

The present is the only thing you have.

There are other methods to use the future, but that is another topic and not for KVR.

A fool escapes the present and that’s what makes the fool, a fool.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:44 am The present is the only thing you have.
...
A fool escapes the present and that’s what makes the fool, a fool.
How big is your "now"?
eh?

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Dunbar wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:31 am
liquidsound wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:44 am The present is the only thing you have.
...
A fool escapes the present and that’s what makes the fool, a fool.
How big is your "now"?
Still going :D
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Mine's a whopper.
eh?

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“now” I’m hungry!!!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Eat too many and the future you will be fat.
eh?

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Dunbar wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:04 pm Eat too many and the future you will be fat.
I’m already primal. Grains will do that. Not the fat. Get rid of the bun! Now!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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Get FL studio…
Oh wait, get Reaper…
Oh wait, Reaper is free - kind off… ;)
Oh wait, so is FL…
You’ll get the message…
Get none.
Get Cubase, Live or Logic.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/trapproduction ... y_account/

Maybe this guy would now appreciate the ability to own something he payed for

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Frankie.T wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:49 am https://www.reddit.com/r/trapproduction ... y_account/

Maybe this guy would now appreciate the ability to own something he payed for
but they say he broke the eula.
whether this is true, we don't know one way or the other.

so maybe, he's no longer entitled to use it? or are you saying that shouldn't matter?
:ud:

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all this philosophizin' lol

here's one...

always remember and learn from the past.
live every day as if it is your last... it may very well be.
always plan for tomorrow because you will be hung out to dry if you wasted everything yesterday

life is a cruel game that the living must play... but remember... "This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test." lol

memento mori

cheers
"two fools dancing on the hands of time... yeah the fool and me"

Knot Hardly Productions

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