Hey IK, When You Finally Do MODO Guitar...

[benjamind]

I definitely agree that a good physically modeled guitar would be superior to sampled guitar. I was merely saying that Ample Sound (and Music Lab Real Guitar) are able to design virtual instruments that "translate to keyboard" and are playable in real-time, and follow fretboard logic. So if they can do it, MODO GUITAR could do it, too.

Far, far superior. And yes, we all understand that the sample-based solutions seem to be able to pull that translation off in real time.

But IK don't wanna release it, I honestly think there changed there mind after 2017. I reckon they just abandoned it. So, the project has been sitting in the backrooms of London Airport never to be seen or heard of again, as far as I'm concerned.

I think IK KNOW that the guitar is such a...what should we say...universal instrument...that they don't want to piss off a lot of guitarists by releasing a realistic PM'ed copy of the raw guitar sound. Sure, release a bass version, because bassists are much less common than guitarists and are often easier to replace than guitarists. Those who master a guitar are several levels above those who master a bass. I don't think any company would want to piss them off...and maybe the guitarists are sponsoring IK anyway, so that would be an instant "no go" anyway.

It's not going to happen. It's best if we forget about it and move on. Theres no point in speculating. IK are done and dusted with this shit. They don't want to release it and it's become painfully and disappointingly clear that they don't.

[noiseboyuk]

But IK don't wanna release it, I honestly think there changed there mind after 2017. I reckon they just abandoned it. So, the project has been sitting in the backrooms of London Airport never to be seen or heard of again, as far as I'm concerned.

I think IK KNOW that the guitar is such a...what should we say...universal instrument...that they don't want to piss off a lot of guitarists by releasing a realistic PM'ed copy of the raw guitar sound. Sure, release a bass version, because bassists are much less common than guitarists and are often easier to replace than guitarists. Those who master a guitar are several levels above those who master a bass. I don't think any company would want to piss them off...and maybe the guitarists are sponsoring IK anyway, so that would be an instant "no go" anyway.

I don’t even know where to begin with any of this.

I’ll be sure to catch my next flight from London Airport though. I didn’t realise IK were based there. I can well imagine how annoyed all ex-guitarists would be to land at London Airport and find this was the very place that put them all out of business.

[donkey tugger]

What a load of old cobble...wait hold on..'London', 'PM', 'guitarists'..........

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It's all true.

[revvy]

London Airport is now a meme.

[benjamind]

MODO FUGGHEDDABOUDDIT would be another cool meme. But I like London Airport...so damp, so cold, so abandoned, if you're in the old backrooms that is.

[gaggle of hermits]

I can well imagine how annoyed all ex-guitarists would be to land at London Airport and find this was the very place that put them all out of business.

landing in croydon would probably be quite dispiriting.

the people living in the housing estate would also be somewhat unhappy about having a plane arrive too.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm also in the "it ain't gonna happen" camp. Too hard to simulate guitar techniques convincingly on a keyboard and go between realistic strums and lead playing. Would have to be a very deep plugin. Way more complex MODO Bass. But hey, at least we have that. It's a terrific plug-in.

[MJACau]

I'm also in the "it ain't gonna happen" camp.

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Ogey never gunna happen, understood.

[electro]

I'm also in the "it ain't gonna happen" camp. Too hard to simulate guitar techniques convincingly on a keyboard and go between realistic strums and lead playing. Would have to be a very deep plugin. Way more complex MODO Bass. But hey, at least we have that. It's a terrific plug-in.

Agree Guitar is too complex and Musiclab Realstrat can already pull it off with the right programming. Best advice never heeded was to get real guitar and learn.

[jinotsuh]

It's not going to happen. It's best if we forget about it and move on.

You've got the essence of it, you just seem to be having trouble putting it into action.
C'mon, give it your best, the good old college try, you can do it.

[jamcat]

Funny actually, that IK can't get it done in 7 years, but a couple university students can do it in a semester.

[noiseboyuk]

We had this discussion 40 pages ago I realise, but perhaps worth repeating - a keyboard interface will never be able to properly replace 6 strings whose own independent pitches can move from below to above the next. It's impossible. That's not to say guitar VIs - sampled or modelled - can't do great tricks, they can and will, but there will always be a conceptual gap in the way a single note instrument like the bass or violin doesn't have. A guitar VI will be able to excel in some areas but won't be able to replace the entire experience. So by all means raise your hopes, but limit your expectations, in London Airport or anywhere else.

[revvy]

You’d be surprised what’s possible in the famous London Airport, Croydon.

[jamcat]

You have full control over which string/fret you are playing on AmpleSound, RealGuitar, and MODO BASS. You can control them quite well live with a little practice, though I think most people use them more for sequenced tracks, where you definitely have control over every nuance of how they’re played through keyswitches and CC.

Personally, I record a real guitar and bass for my finished work, but the aforementioned guitar VST instruments are great for writing and creating mock-ups.

[benjamind]

And I bet IK didn't abandon it for practical reasons, but rather for commercial reasons. In other words, it's not because they couldn't. It is because they won't.

TL;DR:- Conflict of interest. That's the very thing that screws up a lot of stuff. It's why we can't have nice things"

I know they can pull it off, they just don't frigging wanna.