One Synth Challenge #175: 2RuleSynth (NeuKatalYst wins!)

[1980-F]

Can I render a file from the synth and pitch it down using the DAW pitch settings?

No. The rules say: "... for convenience or CPU saving, synth bouncing are allowed but only where the EXACT same result could have been achieved using the original synth: - This means that for example pitching and reversing is not allowed; sampling a bass drum in order to get a consistent sound is not allowed either. "

Even the rendering is super weird, I'm not getting consistent sounds from it.The filter sweeps seem to come out differently.

Well, that's part of the challenge!

[ELEX]

Even the rendering is super weird, I'm not getting consistent sounds from <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">it.The</span> filter sweeps seem to come out differently.

Well, that's part of the challenge!

It REALLY shouldn't be. This kind of bug makes for an OSC unworthy synth, imho. Same for controls randomly resetting. Or LFOs getting stuck on settings one didn't even program. The challenge should be about getting the hang of the synths architecture and controls, which is enough of a challenge, certainly with this synth, and not about pointlessly wrestling with bugs.

[NeuKatalYst]

Can I render a file from the synth and pitch it down using the DAW pitch settings? Even the rendering is super weird, I'm not getting consistent sounds from it.The filter sweeps seem to come out differently.

Also no: in case you want to save CPU, any rendered audio must sound EXACTLY as if the plugin was left alone at that point, including any follow-up plugins. Therefore, the separate rule of not using any pitch shifters (including the literal pitching of the audio) applies.

[doctorbob]

Just to add ... if you freeze a track, it must be the whole track. You must not freeze/render part of a track and copy/paste to another. I know this is what one would like to do when you get say a good kick (and that rendering the whole track gives inconsistent kicks due to sync problems etc), and then cut and paste that audio along a new track for a great kick!

Simply not allowed ... also, remember the rule that the audio cannot leave the DAW to be processed in another audio program.

However, you can generate MIDI data however you please, but it then must be rendered in the DAW observing all the rules.

Hope this makes some sort of sense of the challenge which awaits us all!

dB

[Aesaire]

Just to add ... if you freeze a track, it must be the whole track. You must not freeze/render part of a track and copy/paste to another. I know this is what one would like to do when you get say a good kick (and that rendering the whole track gives inconsistent kicks due to sync problems etc), and then cut and paste that audio along a new track for a great kick!

Simply not allowed ... also, remember the rule that the audio cannot leave the DAW to be processed in another audio program.

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Alright thanks for the replies guys. This is going to require an engineering feat. I am praying for everyone.

[MATCHER]

Hi! This is my entry for this month:

https://soundcloud.com/thematcher/derelict

Made in Ableton Live 11 with:
25x 2RuleSynth
and

Ableton stock effects:
EQ Eight
Reverb
Compressor
Glue Compressor
Saturator
Limiter
Multiband Dynamics
Auto Filter
Utility

3rd Party FX:
kHs Transient Shaper
LoudMax
GClip
RoughRider 3
HY-Delay4 Free
OrilRiver
SPAN
Youlean Loudness Meter

I hope you enjoy it.
Cheers!

[puma17]

The plugin writes its patches to the folder the vst3 is installed in, so if your default vst3 location is not writable (like mine) you could try moving your 2rulesynth folder to another (writable) location. This worked for me.

THANK YOU

Solved the issue for me. Instead of moving the VST to another folder on Win10, I simply added write and modify permission to the specific folder for the regular user (me) and voila - I can create a new bank and save new patches

[Parduz]

The plugin installer fails to comply to the selected installation folder. So i moved the two files (2RuleSynthV-3-1.vst3 and Factory.json) in my desired folder (S:\= Music =\VST_Plugins\ ... \2RuleSynth.

FL Studio doesn't see it. Have someone found a way to use it in FL?

[Parduz]

The plugin installer fails to comply to the selected installation folder. So i moved the two files (2RuleSynthV-3-1.vst3 and Factory.json) in my desired folder (S:\= Music =\VST_Plugins\ ... \2RuleSynth.

FL Studio doesn't see it. Have someone found a way to use it in FL?

Found a way:
i symlinked my choosen folder in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 one.
The plugin get recognized by FL Studio and is able to write his stuff on the disk.

I won't call it a good design :\

BTW:
any way to pan the two OSCs?

[ElVincente]

any way to pan the two OSCs?

Nope... Except for the reverb this synth is mono.

[Bysta]

I have hard time making any kickdrum sound out of it. I'm fairly new to sound design so it's no surprise, but still... It seems pretty.... hard. Anyone made any half decent kick?

[NeuKatalYst]

Don't forget it's legal to use your DAW's matrix and modulators to assign envelopes and LFOs.

Consider also looking up drum-synthesis from scratch in your chosen genre, and follow along as best you can.

Drums are the biggest learning curve: everything else is easy, lol

[Bysta]

Don't forget it's legal to use your DAW's matrix and modulators to assign envelopes and LFOs.

That was my next question. Thank you. That helps quite a bit in drum synthesis.

[gethiox]

My submission
https://soundcloud.com/gethiox/degradation

32x 2rulesynth
various built-in plugins,
external plugins: ValhallaSupermassive, kHs Trance Gate, kHs Transient Shaper, kHs Filter, kHs Snap Heap

[hockinsk3]

Anyone else getting a Trojan:Win32/Sabsik.FL.A!ml on downloading this synth?