UBERVERB ( reproduction of a algorithmic classic reverb from 1986)

[wasi]

Jeez you guys sure bring out the big guns when it's a small dev, huh? Can't spare a pizza and a coke or a round of beers because the update isn't quick enough or he doesn't employ half a dozen people to respond to your emails and clarify refund options within a week?

Here's a friendly observation/LPT: When you buy from a small (especially one-person) dev shop off gumroad, itch.io or whatever you'll have to cut them some (often a lot of) slack on development times and support mail turnover, because believe it or not, a couple of dozen people paying $20 after fees won't pay the bills by a long shot and thus these devs usually have a full-time day job and are subject to time zones, vacation absences, illness and family commitments.

So if $20-$35 is a lot of money for you (as in: you're still obsessing over having spent it six months ago), stick to big devs with a clear refund policy and iLok, c/r or something else that allows them to ensure you're not just ripping them off - or just don't spend your money.

But if you do: People in the US tip their dinner date's waiter more than that. It's a museum ticket. Raging against single devs like this over $35 strikes me a bit like digging your fiver back out of a busker's tip jar because you ended up not liking the other songs he played and then trying to disrupt the performance for anybody that might be interested just out of spite. I strongly suggest keeping it all in perspective, if only for your own mental health.

What has worked for me is: When I buy a plugin from a small dev like this, the money is essentially an immediate writeoff and I consider the majority of the purchase price a donation in support of what is obviously a labor of love.

Raging also ultimately just makes it that much more likely we'll be stuck buying mainstream plugins from the handful of established devs and that's it. That would be a shame.

This, among others, is a great plugin made by one guy and I am confident he will iron out any bugs eventually.

[Luka_Kostii]

Raging also ultimately just makes it that much more likely we'll be stuck buying mainstream plugins from the handful of established devs and that's it. That would be a shame.

Do not make excuses for such developers. Audiority and Audiothing also have prices relatable to a large pizza or museum ticket, yet they deliver their fixes and updates in a timely manner, without the requirement for their customers to ask them the same thing over and over for months or years, and that being one-man operations each. That means it can be done even if you are working alone.

They also don't have an army or helpers and they need to do marketing, product support, answer emails, fix stuff, attend to their family, do million things. Somehow they manage to do all that. I guess, because they are diligent people and have their operations in order. Unthinkable, eh?

It doesn't matter if it's 20$ or 200$ (after all the customer wasn't bothered as much by no refund, as for no replies whatsoever from the dev, which is indeed unprofessional) this Uberverb guy goes around the forums and, apparently, has lots of time on his hands to test other people's software that he BOUGHT and mentor the developers what they should do to improve and fix their shit ASAP (while he could use all that needed time to speed up on fixing his own stuff, but he wouldn't) because he wants the bang for his buck, he wants the software that he paid money for to work properly and he's encouraging them to proceed, so he can have it.

Guess what? People in this thread been asking him to proceed on the same darn thing, meaning fixing his own shit, for months, he wouldn't do it all this time. This guy is a lazy procrastinator, quick to take people's money, but late on delivery. That is the only truth here. There is no argument and there is no excuse.

[gentleclockdivider]

Jeez you guys sure bring out the big guns when it's a small dev, huh? Can't spare a pizza and a coke or a round of beers because the update isn't quick enough or he doesn't employ half a dozen people to respond to your emails and clarify refund options within a week?

Here's a friendly observation/LPT: When you buy from a small (especially one-person) dev shop off gumroad, itch.io or whatever you'll have to cut them some (often a lot of) slack on development times and support mail turnover, because believe it or not, a couple of dozen people paying $20 after fees won't pay the bills by a long shot and thus these devs usually have a full-time day job and are subject to time zones, vacation absences, illness and family commitments.

So if $20-$35 is a lot of money for you (as in: you're still obsessing over having spent it six months ago), stick to big devs with a clear refund policy and iLok, c/r or something else that allows them to ensure you're not just ripping them off - or just don't spend your money.

But if you do: People in the US tip their dinner date's waiter more than that. It's a museum ticket. Raging against single devs like this over $35 strikes me a bit like digging your fiver back out of a busker's tip jar because you ended up not liking the other songs he played and then trying to disrupt the performance for anybody that might be interested just out of spite. I strongly suggest keeping it all in perspective, if only for your own mental health.

What has worked for me is: When I buy a plugin from a small dev like this, the money is essentially an immediate writeoff and I consider the majority of the purchase price a donation in support of what is obviously a labor of love.

Raging also ultimately just makes it that much more likely we'll be stuck buying mainstream plugins from the handful of established devs and that's it. That would be a shame.

This, among others, is a great plugin made by one guy and I am confident he will iron out any bugs eventually.

I am all for supporting small time developers and I couldn't care less about the 20 bucks , it's the effin radio silence that leaves a bad aftertaste.
You buy a plugin you expect it to work and not to stall your daw for 30-60 seconds because of some synthedit feedbackloop .
Plugin sounds great ,no question about that .

[gentleclockdivider]

Double post

[rafa1981]

While this gets worked out some free interpretation of algorithms 49 and 50 as the schematic appeared on the GearSpace thread are available on the TurboPaco plugin. See KVR DC23. The CPU use should be extremely low.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

While this gets worked out some free interpretation of algorithms 49 and 50 as the schematic appeared on the GearSpace thread are available on the TurboPaco plugin. See KVR DC23. The CPU use should be extremely low.

Hi rafa, do you plan on starting a thread for your plugin? I'd love to drill into detail on which algorithms you ported over from Acreil. Seems like he posted quite a number of them and I'm not sure which are which in your plugin. Or what the ??? knob does. Would love to ask in the appropriate forum, just don't know where that is.

[gentleclockdivider]

I would like to set something straight here .
I asked for a refund on the 28th on june and for some reason KVR never showed I had received inbox messages .
Today while browsing through my inbox I noticed a reply from the developer the same day I have send the first message .
So to put the record straight , he responded from the first day (no refund possible )
Just wanted to get that straight

[theviirus]

I would like to set something straight here .
I asked for a refund on the 28th on june and for some reason KVR never showed I had received inbox messages .
Today while browsing through my inbox I noticed a reply from the developer the same day I have send the first message .
So to put the record straight , he responded from the first day (no refund possible )
Just wanted to get that straight

wow. i’ve been hesitant to buy in on the fact of the existing cpu issues, but I was looking forward to the potential next version including more control over algorithm parameters. This is a hard pass for me now. I’m fine with just IRs.

[sergiofrias]

ok,i'm repeating myself once again ,for those who didnt read my previous posts here it goes.
Uberverb uses low cpu, the initial problem was related to the bad framework that synthedit is ,that's why i made the change to Flowstone , synthedit problem is that for any feedback involved there must be a "special" feedback module, that simply refuses to not go to sleep ,can you imagine this multiplied by all the 70 algos inside ,plus all the custom all pass modules ?hence the initial cpu spike ,and it takes a few seconds to drain ,in version 1.5 that is soon to be released that problem is solved ,since flowstone allows feedback , in my initial tests all is going fine cpu wise,no spike whatsoever. i'm working on the final algo portings at the moment,next stage is control switch logic ,and gui porting. it will be out very soon.
as for the price of uberverb , i came from a world were i couldn't affour to buy daw's or vst back in the day, and that is my philosophy today ,make my product affordable for anyone, just like keith barr did when he launched midiverb.

[gentleclockdivider]

A horse walks into a bar ...

[kmonkey]

And the horse said: I think developing a plugin is some sort of copy-pasting blocks inside something. So it is just "that simple" and anyone should do it at the speed I tell them.

[gentleclockdivider]

And the horse said: I think developing a plugin is some sort of copy-pasting blocks inside something. So it is just "that simple" and anyone should do it at the speed I tell them.

-The horse says ' why are you selling a plugin while not mentioning the chosen framework is not capable of Z-1 feedback loops ' ?

-Bartender replies : No worries I'll change to another framework which 99% of developers don't use either , I'll just have to learn the new framework .

-Horse replies :We shouldn't have had this conversation if you would have chosen c++ and a reliable framework to begin with , which primary goal is to speed up development and compatibility .

It's all being said before , I know ...

[gentleclockdivider]

update is comming this summer, almoust all the algos are complete,
next stage is the gui.

bear with me please.

Hors says :Summer ends in 6 days .
Better refund your customers instead of postponed promisses .
Face it !
You know what ?
Since you prototyped the algo’s in reaktor ( which does z-1 feedback loops splendidly) you could have the core cells locked by N.I. ( it will cost you some )and sell the ensemble .

[Benedict]

I had a MIDIfex which was more Delay oriuented but the/a Bloom was there and I lurved that.

[gentleclockdivider]

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