Arturia FX collection is simply the best

[chk071]

it is good but fapfilter much better

So expensive though.

[martiu]

Yeah, a lot more expensive, but so efficient and amazing, they lack the pretty pictures in the UI but top notch quality stuff.
From Arturia i love Coldfire and Fragments though, amazing plugins

[martinjuenke]

Everybody should have bought it!

[jens]

it is good but fapfilter much better

Buy now


(And Fabfilter too while you fap it )

[martiu]

. . . .

[chk071]

Simply fapulous.

[jamcat]

The preamp plugins are gain compensated. No matter how much you turn the gain up on them, the output volume doesn't change. That's not how a real preamp works.

It’s not that difficult to understand. Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder.

UAD, Lindell Audio, IK Miltimedia, NoiseAsh, Shattered Glass Audio, to name a few, all have preamp models that work like real preamps and get louder as you turn up the gain.

Lindell Audio has an autogain button that you can turn on or off (it’s OFF by default), so you can choose if you want it or not. But Arturia gives you no such button. Autogain compensation is always active on the Arturia preamps, and there’s nothing you can do about it. This is a deal-killer for me.

[jens]

This literally makes absolutely ZERO sense from any angle you might look at it - you really must have lost your mind completely now.

[mixtur.se]

The preamp plugins are gain compensated. No matter how much you turn the gain up on them, the output volume doesn't change. That's not how a real preamp works.

It’s not that difficult to understand. Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder.

UAD, Lindell Audio, IK Miltimedia, NoiseAsh, Shattered Glass Audio, to name a few, all have preamp models that work like real preamps and get louder as you turn up the gain.

Lindell Audio has an autogain button that you can turn on or off (it’s OFF by default), so you can choose if you want it or not. But Arturia gives you no such button. Autogain compensation is always active on the Arturia preamps, and there’s nothing you can do about it. This is a deal-killer for me.

People buy plug-in preamps to get the sound of a preamp, not to turn up the volume.

[zerocrossing]

I think they really screwed their 3 Preamps with autogain compensation that can't be turned off. What a stupid design choice.

HUH???

They all have a clean output-gain control, so what on earth are you on about?

(Talking about stupidity of all things...)

The preamp plugins are gain compensated. No matter how much you turn the gain up on them, the output volume doesn't change. That's not how a real preamp works.

True, but it's way better than how a real preamp works. You can control the amount of drive you want and then separately control the output.

[Robmobius]

it is good but fapfilter much better

Fabfilter plugins are a different package of sweets.

Indeed, they are not exactly comparable.

[jamcat]

People buy plug-in preamps to get the sound of a preamp, not to turn up the volume.

*I* buy preamp plugins, and I buy them for the complete operation of a preamp, which includes (but is not limited to) the THD side-effects of the transformer. I use them to turn up the volume, with a little natural harmonic distortion as a result.

The preamp plugins are gain compensated. No matter how much you turn the gain up on them, the output volume doesn't change. That's not how a real preamp works.

True, but it's way better than how a real preamp works. You can control the amount of drive you want and then separately control the output.

Except that I have a whole chain of dynamically controlled plugins that follows the preamp... compressors, tape, etc. I use the preamp plugin to drive the level into the plugins that follow. I don't want the volume and harmonic distortion decoupled. I want it to behave exactly like a preamp without any guesswork.

I essentially use preamp models as volume knobs, which is what a preamp is. Transformer distortion is a side effect of increasing the volume. So I want the appropriate amount of distortion that accompanies the volume increase, for the sake of end-to-end analogue signal-chain authenticity.

When you use a gain compensated preamp plugin just for saturation, you end up saturating way too much, since that's all it's doing and you want to hear it making a difference. If you have volume increasing as well, you're going to be much more in tune with how much gain you're actually adding.

This is how I work, so this is how I need my preamp plugins to work. It's how UAD and Lindell Audio preamps work, which is why I can use them but not Arturia preamps (which I also own.) Personally, I don't think UAD and Lindell Audio are the ones who are doing it wrong.

[zerocrossing]

People buy plug-in preamps to get the sound of a preamp, not to turn up the volume.

*I* buy preamp plugins, and I buy them for the complete operation of a preamp, which includes (but is not limited to) the THD side-effects of the transformer. I use them to turn up the volume, with a little natural harmonic distortion as a result.

The preamp plugins are gain compensated. No matter how much you turn the gain up on them, the output volume doesn't change. That's not how a real preamp works.

True, but it's way better than how a real preamp works. You can control the amount of drive you want and then separately control the output.

Except that I have a whole chain of dynamically controlled plugins that follows the preamp... compressors, tape, etc. I use the preamp plugin to drive the level into the plugins that follow. I don't want the volume and harmonic distortion decoupled. I want it to behave exactly like a preamp without any guesswork.

I essentially use preamp models as volume knobs, which is what a preamp is. Transformer distortion is a side effect of increasing the volume. So I want the appropriate amount of distortion that accompanies the volume increase, for the sake of end-to-end analogue signal-chain authenticity.

When you use a gain compensated preamp plugin just for saturation, you end up saturating way too much, since that's all it's doing and you want to hear it making a difference. If you have volume increasing as well, you're going to be much more in tune with how much gain you're actually adding.

This is how I work, so this is how I need my preamp plugins to work. It's how UAD and Lindell Audio preamps work, which is why I can use them but not Arturia preamps (which I also own.) Personally, I don't think UAD and Lindell Audio are the ones who are doing it wrong.

I don’t think anyone is doing it right or wrong. Arturia just decided that you could have added flexibility by decoupling the gain (distortion/drive) and the output volume. I find it works for me better, because I few a preamp plugin as an effect, basically just a saturation plugin.

I guess it just depends on how far you take the “virtual studio technology” thing. Can your DAW be used in a 1:1 way with a traditional physical studio? Of course, but you can also look at things from another angle. There’s no actual reason to use a preamp plugin for the same reason you’d use a preamp, but as an effect processor, sure. The way Arturia does it makes sense to me because I’m not thinking of it as a preamp, I’m thinking about it as an overdrive effect. But you do you. As you’ve mentioned, you already have your preferred solution.

[jamcat]

I don’t think anyone is doing it right or wrong. Arturia just decided that you could have added flexibility by decoupling the gain (distortion/drive) and the output volume. I find it works for me better, because I few a preamp plugin as an effect, basically just a saturation plugin.

I get that other people want to use plugins in a different way than I do. That’s why I think Lindell Audio in particular get it right, by letting you turn autogain ON when you want it, and OFF when you don’t. That’s what I wish Arturia had done.

[DrGonzo]

Own it and never use it, which is a bit weird because I am a big Arturia fanboy.

What's your favourites in the collection? The filters?