Where is Cubase 12.5 or 13? [Update: It's here C13 is released!]

[jens]

But you geniuses still think that the mono channel is pointless because your brain can not process it, even though there are literally thousands of "mono out" gear at this point in time

Well, if at this point and in this thread your brain still failed to process the information that mono sources can be used without any problem whatsoever on stereo-channels (and that of course goes for both hard- and software), then... well then I really don 't know what to say anymore... for once I am rendered speechless.

[cptgone]

(removed my silly joke, sorry VitaminD)

[VitaminD]

I am starting to regret making this thread, after scrolling through the last few pages of it.

[thebutler]

We need a 'C13 popular features seemingly ignored/not included' thread; like now... which I'm too scared to start, seeing how this one is turning out...

There again, guess it could get quite long.!

But just to get it off my chest, I'll kick off in here first with:-
- don't see mention of any 'gapless' audio engine update; 92 votes on the SB forum.! (I mean, they would definitely have called that one out in the marketing blurb)
- no sign that any proper Ripple Editing function has been added; lowly 9 votes on SB forum

[Rommelaar]

I am running Steinberg Download Assistant and it is updating "Steinberg Media Bay" (59 MB). It is happening ...

[VitaminD]

We need a 'C13 popular features seemingly ignored/not included' thread; like now... which I'm too scared to start, seeing how this one is turning out...

Yes. Personality clashing is more the underlying issue here than anything else.

Hmmm the only thing I really want from Cubase is for it to delete the folder it creates for a new project if you don't save the project.

Sometimes I get in and play with something and don't want to save, so I exit. But Cubase keeps the folder it generates for that project. The folders are numbered so it is iterated higher and higher.

As a result one gets intermingled real projects and these empty project folders. Cubase started doing this a few versions ago and it is the only thing that really annoys me. Works pretty great for me otherwise!

[zvenx]

Wow, I didn't even realised it did that now.
It use to delete the folders before and many of us complained bitterly about that.
I guess an option would suit us both.
rsp

[VitaminD]

Wow, I didn't even realised it did that now.
It use to delete the folders before and many of us complained bitterly about that.
I guess an option would suit us both.

Out of curiosity, what is a use for keeping the empty folder?

[zvenx]

Well.. Say I get a campaign... to do a commercial for the sake of argument for Nike, a campaign called "Summer 2023".
So first thing I do is go to my Audio hard drive and I create a Folder called "Nike Summer 2023", in which I will do all my projects and audio in.. so I start there.. (often I go thru maybe 8 projects before I find the right one for that campaign)

I then open a new cubase project to start writing music for it...I spend the next 20 minutes writing a music sketch of what I think could possibly work, I take a break, come back to it afer that break and say, yikes this is horrible.. so I close that project to start a new cubase project for that campaign...

In doing so the folder vanishes and I would have to then create again a folder Nike Summer 2023.


Hope that makes sense.
rsp

[VitaminD]

Well.. Say I get a campaign... to do a commercial for the sake of argument for Nike, a campaign called "Summer 2023".
So first thing I do is go to my Audio hard drive and I create a Folder called "Nike Summer 2023", in which I will do all my projects and audio in.. so I start there.. (often I go thru maybe 8 projects before I find the right one for that campaign)

I then open a new cubase project to start writing music for it...I spend the next 20 minutes writing a music sketch of what I think could possibly work, I take a break, come back to it afer that break and say, yikes this is horrible.. so I close that project to start a new cubase project for that campaign...

In doing so the folder vanishes and I would have to then create again a folder Nike Summer 2023.

Ah interesting.

Is it typical for you to create a folder manually before opening Cubase? I've never even thought of working that way. Because Cubase generates the folder on it's own.

Cubase doesn't delete the root folder the project folder is in. It should just delete the Cubase project folder.

For instance I have a 'All Cubase Projects' folder and in that are individual Cubase project folders 'Song A', 'Song B', and 'Rough Edit 123'. If I go into Cubase, it will create a new project folder (say 'Song C') and if I close the project without saving, the cpr file isn't saved but the empty 'Song C' inside of the 'Cubase Projects' is still retained.

But it would never and should never clear the root 'All Cubase Projects'

So I'm not sure how clearing the individual project/song folder after closing would hurt anyone.

P:\All Cubase Projects\Song A\

so \Song A\ is deleted but P:\All Cubase Projects wasnt/wouldnt ever be auto deleted. We just need it to clear out the \Song A\ only.

[zvenx]

Well.. Say I get a campaign... to do a commercial for the sake of argument for Nike, a campaign called "Summer 2023".
So first thing I do is go to my Audio hard drive and I create a Folder called "Nike Summer 2023", in which I will do all my projects and audio in.. so I start there.. (often I go thru maybe 8 projects before I find the right one for that campaign)

I then open a new cubase project to start writing music for it...I spend the next 20 minutes writing a music sketch of what I think could possibly work, I take a break, come back to it afer that break and say, yikes this is horrible.. so I close that project to start a new cubase project for that campaign...

In doing so the folder vanishes and I would have to then create again a folder Nike Summer 2023.

Ah interesting.

Is it typical for you to create a folder manually before opening Cubase? I've never even thought of working that way. Because Cubase generates the folder on it's own.

Cubase doesn't delete the root folder the project folder is in. It should just delete the Cubase project folder.

For instance I have a 'Cubase Projects' folder and in that are individual Cubase project folders 'Song A', 'Song B', and 'Rough Edit 123'. If I go into Cubase, it will create a new project folder (say 'Song C') and if I close the project without saving, the cpr file isn't saved but the empty 'Song C' inside of the 'Cubase Projects' is still retained.

But it would never and should never clear the root 'Cubase Projects'

So I'm not sure how clearing the Cubase Project folder after closing would hurt anyone.

Always.. I have a dedicated hard drive for projects (and a few dedicated ones that mirror that one and back up that one) and creating the folder for each project has always been my work flow (well except I have a folder called Beta that has stuff going back for year which have projects I have used to test software I beta test, and a folder called jam which has tons of unfinished ideas).
But for paid work, Always start with the folder..

But didn't I just demonstrate why it hurts me?
Confused here..
rsp

[zvenx]

I am guessing you use Default location and not prompt like I do.

Cause Prompt only creates subfolders for Audio, Mixdown, Edits but not the main folder where the project actually is.

rsp

[VitaminD]

Well.. Say I get a campaign... to do a commercial for the sake of argument for Nike, a campaign called "Summer 2023".
So first thing I do is go to my Audio hard drive and I create a Folder called "Nike Summer 2023", in which I will do all my projects and audio in.. so I start there.. (often I go thru maybe 8 projects before I find the right one for that campaign)

I then open a new cubase project to start writing music for it...I spend the next 20 minutes writing a music sketch of what I think could possibly work, I take a break, come back to it afer that break and say, yikes this is horrible.. so I close that project to start a new cubase project for that campaign...

In doing so the folder vanishes and I would have to then create again a folder Nike Summer 2023.

Ah interesting.

Is it typical for you to create a folder manually before opening Cubase? I've never even thought of working that way. Because Cubase generates the folder on it's own.

Cubase doesn't delete the root folder the project folder is in. It should just delete the Cubase project folder.

For instance I have a 'Cubase Projects' folder and in that are individual Cubase project folders 'Song A', 'Song B', and 'Rough Edit 123'. If I go into Cubase, it will create a new project folder (say 'Song C') and if I close the project without saving, the cpr file isn't saved but the empty 'Song C' inside of the 'Cubase Projects' is still retained.

But it would never and should never clear the root 'Cubase Projects'

So I'm not sure how clearing the Cubase Project folder after closing would hurt anyone.

Always.. I have a dedicated hard drive for projects (and a few dedicated ones that mirror that one and back up that one) and creating the folder for each project has always been my work flow (well except I have a folder called Beta that has stuff going back for year which have projects I have used to test software I beta test, and a folder called jam which has tons of unfinished ideas).
But for paid work, Always start with the folder..

But didn't I just demonstrate why it hurts me?

I'm confused how this hurts you though. If you create a folder manually then, inside of that folder create a Cubase Project folder, Cubase never would have deleted the larger folder that houses the Cubase Project folder. It would just delete the Cubase project folder inside of it only. No? I don't think I am understanding.

[zvenx]

I dont' create a subfolder, where are you getting that from>
I create one folder, with the project name.
All my assets in that example go into Nike Summer 2023.. all my project files are in there, audio files in the subfolder Audio that Cubase creates, Images in the subfolder Cubendo creates etc.

rsp

Look at a real example.. u-he has a hive soundbank called Kinesis in which the sound developer asked me to do some demos..
On my mac, all my Projects start o ff on the HArd dRive Portable Studio..
For this project I created a folder called Kinesis Demo... and all my project assets are saved there.... (this project had no audio tracks so cubase didn't create an Audio folder) but of course automatically created a Mixdown Folder.

The only subfolder I create are versions of cubendo projects of ideas I had that didn't make the final cut so they went into a folder I create that I usually call unused..


rsp

[VitaminD]

Where are the Audio and Track Pictures subfolders that generate by default inside the Cubase generated Project folder? Maybe Mac works different than Windows.

Anywho I just want Cubase to start working like it did for time before about 3 versions ago where any folders Cubase generates on it's own are also removed by Cubase if a project file isn't saved. Saves from having empty Orphan project folders which clutter very quickly an other wise really tidy root folder housing all the project folders.

I don't think Cubase was ever clearing project folders you manually created, only ones it created for you. Yes?

That is to say, I think we are discussing two different things with folders. One with folders manually created and the other with folders Cubase is creating.