Any Forums for Minimal Deep House Production Discussions.

[darkarchitech]

I was wondering if anyone knows of any forums that are more dedicated to Minimal Deep House and Minimal Tech-House production?

Most forums I find online are geared towards the mainstream genres of electronic music and a lot of the advice and tips they give there are not much help when trying to produce the types of genres I am interested in.

I've produced for a couple decades now and finally got my own releases in these genres, but I have never actually discussed any kinds of techniques or anything with anyone in person or online, and at this point it could be really beneficial to learn some new tips and tricks to add to my tool belt.

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.

[Benedict]

My Q here is always: Why do people think that sound and the way that nasty little humanses feel changes when the genre title on the little tab in the record store changes?

Harmony, physics of sound, and everything except for a few Tropes (cliches) is exactly the same in Opera as it is in Death Metal, Mamba, and EDM. Even Trap tripe is using the same basics (even if only a tiny fragment).

So the more useful Q is: What is it that you feel that you are missing, or want to know?

[? ? ?]

Harmony, physics of sound, and everything except for a few Tropes (cliches) is exactly the same in Opera as it is in Death Metal, Mamba, and EDM. Even Trap tripe is using the same basics (even if only a tiny fragment).

So Bomo can sing opera on a whim? The Edge can just hop on stage with The Mothers Of Invention and Zappa away??
Can Kirk Hammett replace Jonnhy Marr and write like the latter without developing that kind of feel?
How about having Madonna be the new front woman for Deicide?

[Benedict]

Technically yes. It used to not be too uncommon for artists to guest out of their audience space.
If all the players are truly experienced, know music, there is huge common ground. Here is Deep Purple where Jon Lord (Blues Rock Organist) sitting with Malcolm Arnold (serious Classical Conductor) put together a work that merges both sides of their coins.

Watch the faces of the orchestral players, esp when the band do their thing and you see a few minds change. Them fiddlers may not have converted to Metal, but they realized that they were doing the same things (even if the orch parts in this are simpler than the average Mozart).

So I would expect that Hammett and Marr should be able to play each other's parts without making fools of themselves. Sure every player has a feel so George Benson standing in on Cathedral's "Forest Of Equilibrium" may be a bit different but the reality is that Benson would deliver the pretty bits much better. His Doomy parts may not be as evil.

[Benedict]

oops

[BONES]

I was wondering if anyone knows of any forums that are more dedicated to Minimal Deep House and Minimal Tech-House production?

If you only make music on the third Tuesday of months when there is a Blue Moon and your primary workstation faces due South. Oh, and you must be using a computer that is less than six years old but more than two and it can't have a beige enclosure or more than 2 PCI cards. It will need a minimum of 4 USB Type A and two USB Type C ports and if it has internal lighting, it must include blue. If you can meet all those criteria, then I'm sure there are plenty of forums you can use.

So Bomo can sing opera on a whim?

Would a forum dedicated to operatic performance change that? It's something you can do or you can't. I can, but not very well.

The Edge can just hop on stage with The Mothers Of Invention and Zappa away??

Is there a forum that would change that?

Can Kirk Hammett replace Jonnhy Marr and write like the latter without developing that kind of feel?

Again,k is there a forum that woudl change that?

How about having Madonna be the new front woman for Deicide?

Forum?

[cryophonik]

IDMForums or Subsekt are probably the closest you’ll find that are still online and “active”, but both are pretty dead these days. Forums for electronic-based subgenres are pretty much a thing of the past now.

[cryophonik]

Although it’s a forum primarily for Elektron users, you could probably find quite a few people on the Elektronauts forum to talk minimal styles with you.

[? ? ?]

Technically yes.

Ah. Key word there is "technically".
The OP wants to up their game in a particular genre and is looking for others to communicate with to accomplish that. I can understand that. What I *don't* understand is why anyone would throw in science and physics behind music when it is besides the point of what the OP wants to accomplish.

If all the players are truly experienced, know music, there is huge common ground.

There you go, key word here is experienced. The OP has a certain level of experience and wants to expand on that in a specific genre. It may be true that "Harmony, physics of sound, and everything except for a few Tropes (cliches) is exactly the same in all genres" but to get the experience in performing each genre - to that genre's standard(s) - requires assistance in some way.
Nobody here got experience without some other source of help, be it a forum, A book, college course etc.
Even someone self taught was inspired by experienced predecessors.

Watch the faces of the orchestral players, esp when the band do their thing and you see a few minds change. Them fiddlers may not have converted to Metal, but they realized that they were doing the same things (even if the orch parts in this are simpler than the average Mozart).

I didn't bother with the video, I can't stand deep purple.
Anyhow, if you code in LUA and C#, you are doing the same thing which is typing syntax which in the end converts to machine language. Their purpose is the same but that's besides the point if you want either to do your bidding. You'll have to read up, get assistance in some way, on how to program with each language and be prolific with each.

So I would expect that Hammett and Marr should be able to play each other's parts without making fools of themselves.

And I would expect someone who flies a Cessna should be able to fly a 747 without making a fool of themself. They're both planes what's the big deal? The physics of flying are the same right?

Is there a forum that would change that

Well well well. Listen to Mr. Big Mouth hot shot over here. Very funny comment coming from someone who told me specifically in another thread that "We all come here to share our knowledge and experience, to learn and to help others."
Now correct me if I am wrong dear sir but last I checked, KVR is indeed a forum.
But ok, ill bite. Would a forum change that? Well that all depends now wouldn't it? If you want to learn how to bake potatos and you go to a forum that discusses how to fry your dick, well then Mr. BONES, I can safely say that the forum will only screw up your precious potato.

[BONES]

The OP has a certain level of experience and wants to expand on that in a specific genre.

And what Benedict was suggesting is that 99% of the useful information he is likely to pick up to aid in his quest can be learned from far more broad-based forum like this place, for example. I have absolutely no idea what Minimal Deep House is but I guarantee I have all the knowledge, techniques and skills anyone would need to make it.

Even someone self taught was inspired by experienced predecessors.

Possibly, not necessarily. My inspiration has pretty much exclusively come from the Punk ethic, which says you don't have to know anything, you just have to get up and do it. It has stood me in good stead over many years.

KVR is indeed a forum. But ok, ill bite. Would a forum change that? Well that all depends now wouldn't it?

It's impossible to tell whether you are really this stupid or willfully miscomprehending. Some people can sing opera, some can't. It's not something you go to a forum to learn how to do. OTOH, any dickhead can make any genre of dance music, they all require pretty much the same skillset and absolutely no talent whatsoever. Any question the OP might have is very likely to be known to the majority of people around here, it wouldn't require any specialist knowledge.

As you point out, we're here to help people, not to blindly perpetuate their stupidity.

[? ? ?]

what Benedict was suggesting is that 99% of the useful information he is likely to pick up to aid in his quest can be learned from far more broad-based forum like this place, for example.

And i'm the stupid one. Christ on a stick. Do you not see the obvious? The OP is asking a question here making them obviously a member of KVR. Can't you consider that they havn't found what they are looking for here HENCE THE THREAD?
But please feel free to "help people" like you claim to do and post links to topics here in KVR that could assist the OP regarding Minimal Deep House.
Oh wait......

I have absolutely no idea what Minimal Deep House is

And yet......

any dickhead can make any genre of dance music, they all require pretty much the same skillset and absolutely no talent whatsoever.

Yeah. Real big help there from someone who admits to knowing nothing about the style of music the OP is interested in.

but I guarantee I have all the knowledge, techniques and skills anyone would need to make it.

And I guarantee whatever dance music you make, nobody will like it. It won't be anything worth buying or spinning because with whatever knowledge, technique and skill you have for making music, zero of it contains any experience for making any genre of dance music. And that's the whole point. The OP has experience in making minimal deep house but realizes they need to up their game (gain more experience).

]My inspiration has pretty much exclusively come from the Punk ethic, which says you don't have to know anything, you just have to get up and do it. It has stood me in good stead over many years.

Ok hot shot. Forget the fact that you hate dance music. Go make a dance tune and see how it turns out. As you say, any dickhead can do it and it requires no talent. So GO! Take a few minutes of your time and put some action where your big mouth is. Show everybody that they are dickheads and anybody can make a good dance song.
I personally have experience making dance music so I know you're in for a surprise but prove me and the rest of the no talent dickheads wrong.

Some people can sing opera, some can't. It's not something you go to a forum to learn how to do.

I'm the stupid one yet i have to go out of my way to explain the following - double upside down christ on a stick.
Welp, okey doke, Forums, dear mr. Bonehead, contain information. Information that just might assist someone should they apply it when practicing. Are you with me so far?
Akin to when, for example, pilots have to read text on paper to obtain information on how the instruments on a cockpit work, musicians can read text in forums to obtain information. Imagine that! Isn't it just wonderful? I don't know about you but I feel like tip toeing through some tulips.

Any question the OP might have is very likely to be known to the majority of people around here, it wouldn't require any specialist knowledge.

Yea i see it's going REAL well for the OP. Look at all the helpful posts! Not one single member chimed in to offer any help to up the OPs game. That's because *ding ding ding*, most members here don't have that kind of experience.
I sure don't. I was heavily into making DnB and House/German Tech styled dance music and never got good at it. f**king hard music to get good at.

we're here to help people, not to blindly perpetuate their stupidity.

Yea sure. You're a real big help. Yes there are lots of members posting stupid questions here but there is a difference between someone looking for a forum dedicated to one genre of dance music (which is not unheard of for fux sake) vs someone asking "why do you like making music you like" or whatever nonsense they ask.

[BONES]

I have absolutely no idea what Minimal Deep House is

And yet......

any dickhead can make any genre of dance music, they all require pretty much the same skillset and absolutely no talent whatsoever.

That was 5 minutes ago, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music has made it quite clear how utterly anodyne and non-descript it is, making it perfect for anyone with a synth and 15 minutes to spare.

And I guarantee whatever dance music you make, nobody will like it.

Well of course not, all dance music is f**king awful. Everyone knows that. That's why they take drugs before they listen to it.

It won't be anything worth buying or spinning because with whatever knowledge, technique and skill you have for making music, zero of it contains any experience for making any genre of dance music.

Given that most genres of dance music came out of the genre I work in, I don't think your assertion has much credibility.

The OP has experience in making minimal deep house but realizes they need to up their game (gain more experience).

That's your assumption, mine is that he has no experience at all and thinks MDH is a genre that requires special ninja skills no-one working in any other genre has, which is clearly not the case.

[revvy]

bones, what genre do you work in? what genres have 'come out of it'?

[vurt]

bones, what genre do you work in? what genres have 'come out of it'?

drg. dystopic robot gothwave.

[revvy]

bones, what genre do you work in? what genres have 'come out of it'?

drg. dystopic robot gothwave.

a valuable addition to the electronic music canon, I think we can all agree