Where is Cubase 12.5 or 13? [Update: It's here C13 is released!]

[lfm]

The curse of the conspiracy theory strikes again. What on earth would the motive be for them to leak something in such an awkward and irritating way?

The market, and people rather relying on bloggers and influencers, than on professional reviewers who do factual reviews with hard info.

It's also not really a conspiracy theory. You can read a lot on intentional leaks by companies. They are very real.

When Cubase if it was before 9 or 9.5 was to be released there were a company in netherlands that had a page up regarding education/course on new upcoming Cubase, so you could sign up.

When this was discovered Steinberg had him take down that page until they made official announcement.

And a few weeks later announcement came.

So seems Steinberg is particular about controlling this fully when information circulate. This was in fall, so since releases has been other times of year and they may have changed policy since.

Just tells a story, I don't think leaks are intentional. Steinberg seems like control freaks.

[noiseboyuk]

I think these leaks are intentional, and that the companies know exactly what they're doing. It happens so regularly that it can't be coincidence.

The curse of the conspiracy theory strikes again. What on earth would the motive be for them to leak something in such an awkward and irritating way?

The market, and people rather relying on bloggers and influencers, than on professional reviewers who do factual reviews with hard info.

In this context that's just random words interspersed with appropriate punctuation.

[chk071]

I have a feeling that you're not really open to arguments anyway. But then, if you want to believe that every leak is accidental, why would I prevent you from doing so? I think that's being naive, but, hey.

[jancivil]

12 was pretty stable here until this current project, which is all Apple Silicon incl. VE Pro. Cubase began thinking the audio device was removed; at a certain point/eventually it looked like it was project corruption (eg., I would open New /empty/ Project and import audio from said extant project and no problem, then back to that and there it is, wholly unable to load the driver [whether it was external or built-in]); until it did that with older projects under Rosetta. Evidently this is something (mostly?) with Mac OS going back a number of iterations, albeit a first for me.

I cannot attribute this to anything specific at all, incl. the all-silicon factor. One notable diff is this is the first proj with VE Pro on this setup.
The VE Pro server project showed a crash inside NI Replika XT {"possible RAM corruption" therein sez their support} which only involved touching parameters in VSL FX internal to Synchron Player, weirdly.
I did finally upgrade the OS here, to Mac OS14 {Sonoma public beta!} which is not the kind of thing I do but I'm desperate. The last thing I did (been mixing it for months ) works normally under Rosetta so far. NB: it uses VSL MIR Pro 3D but all instruments plugged in 'the old way'.
It's terrifying.

[sin night]

It seems an "ok" upgrade (at least on paper), if the rumors are correct. I'm not "excited" (Cubase Pro 12 already does what I need and much more), but I'm looking forward for the official announcement to see what they actually did; workflow improvements are always welcome.
I guess we'll have to wait (but I'm not in a rush, even if I usually upgrade sooner than later) and for me it's perfectly ok.

[macmuse]

12 was pretty stable here until this current project, which is all Apple Silicon incl. VE Pro. Cubase began thinking the audio device was removed; at a certain point/eventually it looked like it was project corruption (eg., I would open New /empty/ Project and import audio from said extant project and no problem, then back to that and there it is, wholly unable to load the driver [whether it was external or built-in]);

Jan, this has happened to me. It forgets my audio interface and defaults to the built-in audio, and even if I relaunch Cubase or restart the Mac, the interface is still not available in Cubase to choose. Sometimes I have to reinstall my audio driver to get it back. Cubase only, Mac Intel.

[sqigls]

what audio interfaces?

[dionenoid]

It is very heartening to see Cubase 12 users that are happy. In fact if you have the time to say your C12 has been running perfect please do, especially PC users. It is quite easy to see pages and pages of crashes, bugs, instability, lost features, authorization problems on their user forum and conclude it is not working for the majority.

I think they should have a section where people can post how well their system in running for balance. That would be very useful indeed. Clearly some are having troubles and I do try to take into account poor PC hardware, less than ideal drivers, non clean installs and problem plug ins.

Please do post on here if you have largely had a great time with C12, that is very useful. I can see 2 well respected members on here have been having troubles Jan and Guy being 2.

Online there is a definite bias that it is not working very well (people tend to report problems with haste) at all for many so it is refreshing to see the opposite. There should be a praise section on their forums for balance with listed hardware and average project types being used, then it would not appear like a massive wall of negativity, no one is fully immune from getting an average online impression built up.

C12 is running perfectly here. On Win10, RME soundcard. Using it every day, for many hours. Installation and authorisation worked without issues. I have dozens of colleagues who also work with C12 and they have no issues either, not on PC nor on Mac. In fact, i've heard far less issues with C12 than with previous versions.

If you go by complaints on the net then every daw and plugin is a buggy mess.

[skijumptoes]

C12 - First 6 months were probably my worst experience with Cubase as it was bug after bug and features like the MIDI Remote more akin to a beta than a final release. What I didn't like is the months wait to have small issues corrected such as the MIDI notes being misaligned on the timeline, I can't see why SB weren't more responsive to fix that.

I'd say start of this year onwards it's been really good for me since, though. The licensing I just take for granted now, but having all my libraries and apps on desktop and MacBook without having to carry a dongle is brilliant.

As of 12.0.7, I think it's one of the best versions of Cubase personally, despite that rocky start.

It's now rock solid for me, performs very well and I get a lot of use of the new features and plugins... It's more the long standing bugs and trivial issues that I'd love to see fixed.

[Synthman2000]

12 was pretty stable here until this current project, which is all Apple Silicon incl. VE Pro. Cubase began thinking the audio device was removed; at a certain point/eventually it looked like it was project corruption (eg., I would open New /empty/ Project and import audio from said extant project and no problem, then back to that and there it is, wholly unable to load the driver [whether it was external or built-in]); until it did that with older projects under Rosetta. Evidently this is something (mostly?) with Mac OS going back a number of iterations, albeit a first for me.

I cannot attribute this to anything specific at all, incl. the all-silicon factor. One notable diff is this is the first proj with VE Pro on this setup.
The VE Pro server project showed a crash inside NI Replika XT {"possible RAM corruption" therein sez their support} which only involved touching parameters in VSL FX internal to Synchron Player, weirdly.
I did finally upgrade the OS here, to Mac OS14 {Sonoma public beta!} which is not the kind of thing I do but I'm desperate. The last thing I did (been mixing it for months ) works normally under Rosetta so far. NB: it uses VSL MIR Pro 3D but all instruments plugged in 'the old way'.
It's terrifying.

Sorry to hear that though I can offer some advice, ditch NI Replika, that plug in crashed my Cubase so many times (PC though) so I banished it from the system. (It is not even the best sounding delay by a large margin). It is too glassy/phasey/weird for my liking. The delayed signal does not gel with the mix right for my ears.

Hope your system gets better soon.

For now I have zero regrets about not updating to 12 so far. I would need zero of the new features and have 2 perfectly working Cubase set ups.

In saying that it is reassuring to hear that the last release of 12 is working well for some though, I am pleased for you, it gives some confidence. It certainly is easy to get an impression a release is broken, it is why I think Steinberg need a sub forum for people who are working with Cubase without issues, they are missing a trick there, it would balance out the vast wall of public facing negativity.

[Atlatnesiti]

Cubase ver 13 will be released late November/mid December or sometime in 2024.
Mark my words.

[kritikon]

Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never had problems with any version of Cubase from 1.0 on Atari and onwards. I don't bugger around with computers when I get them, so it's always stock Windows with stock settings only ever changed according to Steinberg recommendations (power settings etc). Any issues I had were user error or just not knowing how shit works. Of course I've had BSODs etc through the years but I've always been able to pin those down to plugins. Same now, and it's always 3rd party, not Cubase that's the issue, though I guess it could be Cubase's handling of 3rd party that's an issue.

Every new DAW has complaints and bugs. I don't see Cubase having more than anyone else. Possibly louder than others? TBH I get more trouble from mainstream apps than Cubase, for example the latest Edge update broke how I watch some TV to the point I have to use a different browser now. Putting out certain channels via HDMI cable to another screen is blocked as "dangerous" for some ludicrous reason but not others, yet I can watch them on the laptop screen. Thunderbird for some reason just stopped working on later versions of Win10, had to change email server - using Outlook currently (which is fkn awful, must get round to looking for another one). Never had that kind of shit from Cubase...

[Serhii Kot]

Cubase ver 13 will be released late November/mid December or sometime in 2024.
Mark my words.

September 26, my bet.
Windows 11 with copilot
MacOS Sonoma
Logic Pro (also my guess)

[chk071]

Cubase ver 13 will be released late November/mid December or sometime in 2024.
Mark my words.

What if it will be released in September or October though?

[andypryce]

Cubase ver 13 will be released late November/mid December or sometime in 2024.
Mark my words.

Next week or the one after latest.