KVR Audio

Stupid American Pig · Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:26 pm

so is there any tarnce out there without the umm-sss-umm-sss-umm-sss and a hoover in it? maybe I would like it if I could find some...

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:45 pm

S_A_P wrote:ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss

and a bit of douf, douf, douf, douf....

Now if someone can supply the ..chk..chk..chk..ckk bit, we've got a hit!

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:58 pm

chk chk chk chk chikichk chk chk chk

Where do we sign?

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:24 am

Maybe all of us loaners could collab on a good 909 hat based track.

3*s · Post by **3*s** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:55 am

It's all about the dynamics. 808 hats, acoustic hats, and various other electronic hats don't have enough "punch" dynamically to support the ever important 8th downbeat in a dance groove. Most hats have a smooth attack envelope, the 909 is more of a "hit," which is why it supports a dance groove so well. If you wan't something more original, you can put some other kind of hat through a decent compressor and let some of the attack through. You'll need to twiddle eqs as well, especially if using 808s. You'll hear that a lot in more organic sounding house music.

To me it seems like most dance producers recently have been steering away from raw 909 hats.

o'malley · Post by **o'malley** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:02 am

I don't know... I kinda like the 606 hats better.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:20 am

Whenever I do anything even vaguely dance-related, I always gravitate back to 909 hats. I don't want to, I know I shouldn't but I can't help it. Dunno if we're just indictrinated (that's a bit 'Allo 'Allo...I meant indoctrinininated I think.)

I tried 606s, 808s, Alesises's, real ones, my own synthesiezed ones....just can't kick the habit. Do I need to see a counsellor d'you think?

mark77 · Post by **mark77** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:15 pm

well if you pay CLOSE attention then you'll realise that pure 909 hats are indeed dead. Listen to QUALITY house, dance or trance these days and you'll find open hats that sound SIMILAR to 909 (they possibly are 909 samples) but, they're used in less obvious way. I mean.. compare axwell's open hats to dj bobo's. Even though the sound is essentially the same... today's 909 sound sounds more souped up and more tweaked.. and .. hmm BETTER sounding then all those years ago. It's amazing though how effective it can be. It's used from pop, to dance, trance, hard house, techno, hardcore, progressive... and everything in between.. and it's very versatile... Long live the 909 hats!!!!

verstaerker · Post by **verstaerker** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:20 pm

S_A_P wrote:ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss

remix:
wumm wumm tschhhh wumm wumm tsch tsch ssss wumm wumm tsch sss quiiiiiick wumm wumm

gruberman · Post by **gruberman** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:28 pm

verstaerker wrote:
S_A_P wrote:ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss-ummm-ssss
remix:
wumm wumm tschhhh wumm wumm tsch tsch ssss wumm wumm tsch sss quiiiiiick wumm wumm

pr pr pr pr prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Added snare roll.

3*s · Post by **3*s** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:34 pm

House mix (added swing):
mmm tsss t khhh tsss t mmmm t tsss khh tss t

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:53 pm

dup-dup...dup-dup (cowbell)

no_barcode · Post by **no_barcode** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:14 pm

Okay, you guys have the drums down just fine. Can someone please spell the sound of a 303 baseline?

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:16 pm

numa numa numa eeoww numa num? that was a saw, the square is more noma noma noma budup eoow nom

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:16 pm

It occured to me I didn't even have any 909 hat samples on my hard drive. Heh.

909 hihats - will they ever be bettered?