Studio One 6.5 Released!

[runagate]

Does it have MIDI 2 support?

For this to be of any value - do we need new hardware? Or just driver/software support?

I am thinking it has to be new hardware for certain. Not quite ready to replace everything just yet

VP

Both I think, but the new NI MkIII’s do support MIDI 2 but I can’t remember if S1 does, yet, but it needs to to get the best from them. It does support MPE, so it might already, although that’s not the same thing of course.

Wait, seriously?

Anyone want a barely-used MK2? That didn't make is sufficiently into their marketing as I checked it out, half-watched a video and then ignored it


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MIDI 2.0 support in DAWs and hardware products is currently rather limited, however in the coming updates we will start including more and more MIDI 2.0 features like high resolution parameters and jitter reduction timestamps. Caveat: JRT (Jitter Reduction Timestamps) is currently not supported by anybody as far as we are aware.

https://community.native-instruments.co ... es-mk3/p34

I thought he was implying they'd eventually add MIDI 2.0 in that quote, I'm glad you off-handedly mentioned that, aMUSED

[qtheerearranger]

the update to bitcrusher is certainly worth taking a look at. I didn't really use this before so maybe its placebo.. but it sounds really really good now and is a very versatile bitcrusher. do not sleep on that sine toggle.

[dlandis]

I note that when using MPE Glide, about half the time, when one releases a note, it reverts back to the original pitch pressed (as opposed to releasing and staying on the pitch to which one glides. This seems a fairly significant bug, and one that pretty much negates the use of MPE in Studio One. This bug is, as far as I have experienced it, new to 6.5.

On another subordinate issue, I note that the fifth dimension of MPE, "lift," remains unrecognized by Studio One. At this point, I've kind of lost hope of ever seeing it in Studio One (a techie told me that its implementation would be based on "user requests," but I am pretty sure that when users originally requested MPE, they assumed that the MPE standard would be adopted in its entirety rather than just four-fifths of the same.) However, the new glide pitch bug remains quite perplexing.

[aMUSEd]

Does it have MIDI 2 support?

For this to be of any value - do we need new hardware? Or just driver/software support?

I am thinking it has to be new hardware for certain. Not quite ready to replace everything just yet

VP

Both I think, but the new NI MkIII’s do support MIDI 2 but I can’t remember if S1 does, yet, but it needs to to get the best from them. It does support MPE, so it might already, although that’s not the same thing of course.

Wait, seriously?

Anyone want a barely-used MK2? That didn't make is sufficiently into their marketing as I checked it out, half-watched a video and then ignored it


[ edit ]

MIDI 2.0 support in DAWs and hardware products is currently rather limited, however in the coming updates we will start including more and more MIDI 2.0 features like high resolution parameters and jitter reduction timestamps. Caveat: JRT (Jitter Reduction Timestamps) is currently not supported by anybody as far as we are aware.

https://community.native-instruments.co ... es-mk3/p34

I thought he was implying they'd eventually add MIDI 2.0 in that quote, I'm glad you off-handedly mentioned that, aMUSED

Yeah the keyboards already support MIDI 2, what they are assaying is what can be done with that is currently limited because not a lot of hardware or hosts support it, and although the standard is there the actual implementation is a work in progress. They did say they plan to add MPE at some point though too, although tbh I'm not sure if that is feasible given the traditional keyboard design.

[jamcat]

Can we stop fretting over Fender acquiring PreSonus yet?

(Pun possibly intended.)

[dlandis]

Does it have MIDI 2 support?

For this to be of any value - do we need new hardware? Or just driver/software support?

I am thinking it has to be new hardware for certain. Not quite ready to replace everything just yet

VP

Both I think, but the new NI MkIII’s do support MIDI 2 but I can’t remember if S1 does, yet, but it needs to to get the best from them. It does support MPE, so it might already, although that’s not the same thing of course.

MPE is spotty as lift is not recognized and glide now has a bug in 6.5 that basically renders MPE, for all practical purposes, useless (pitch reverts to the original pitch struck after one releases the key.) I'm trying to find a work-around, but so far, nada.

Unfortunately, Studio One's philosophy is beginning to resemble the approach Ableton had back before version 8 when many features were introduced, but previously introduced bugs were often not addressed. Ableton did finally address the issue, if memory serves. Let's hope that Presonus follows suit and begins to fix valid complaints rather than relegate them to being addressed as "user requests."

[apoclypse]

Does it have MIDI 2 support?

For this to be of any value - do we need new hardware? Or just driver/software support?

I am thinking it has to be new hardware for certain. Not quite ready to replace everything just yet

VP

Both I think, but the new NI MkIII’s do support MIDI 2 but I can’t remember if S1 does, yet, but it needs to to get the best from them. It does support MPE, so it might already, although that’s not the same thing of course.

Wait, seriously?

Anyone want a barely-used MK2? That didn't make is sufficiently into their marketing as I checked it out, half-watched a video and then ignored it


[ edit ]

MIDI 2.0 support in DAWs and hardware products is currently rather limited, however in the coming updates we will start including more and more MIDI 2.0 features like high resolution parameters and jitter reduction timestamps. Caveat: JRT (Jitter Reduction Timestamps) is currently not supported by anybody as far as we are aware.

https://community.native-instruments.co ... es-mk3/p34

I thought he was implying they'd eventually add MIDI 2.0 in that quote, I'm glad you off-handedly mentioned that, aMUSED

Yeah the keyboards already support MIDI 2, what they are assaying is what can be done with that is currently limited because not a lot of hardware or hosts support it, and although the standard is there the actual implementation is a work in progress. They did say they plan to add MPE at some point though too, although tbh I'm not sure if that is feasible given the traditional keyboard design.

It's also NI, they say they are going to do a lot of things until a new shiny shows up and they all of sudden forgot about everything they said they would do for whatever you currently bought. They do this all the time. I have absolutely not trust NI will implement Midi 2 properly or MPE for that matter.

[Echoes in the Attic]

How would they even implement mpe on the mk3 keyboards. The keys would need sensors to be able to get input for timbre and note pitch bend expressions, which they obviously don't have or they would have mentioned it.

[jinotsuh]

and in the release notes they also tucked this one away....

"Public beta version for Ubuntu Linux"

Say it ain't so, what a waste of time. But I guess, they got nothing much else, may as well just throw them a bone. But please don't let it take much time and energy away from the real versions.

I couldn't find mention of it, I looked and looked thoroughly all through the "Known Issues" section and couldn't find any mention off it, you folks are havin' a go

[Renan L.B]

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https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... ng-Started (https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/19214558269581-Linux-Getting-Started)

It's real and working here on Ubuntu Studio 23.04. Bitwig, Reaper and now Studio One on Linux and everyday more plugin devs getting involved for native versions, good times seems like the "impossible shift" is happening.

"CLAP your hands everybody!"

[concealed identity]

Can we stop fretting over Fender acquiring PreSonus yet?

(Pun possibly intended.)

I've noticed that instead of making incremental improvements over time to appeal to a wide range of users, Presonus instead focuses on appealing to certain demographics with each update - loads of people expressed their disappointment at 6 having a lot of stuff for "EDM producers", and I'm sure we'll see complaints about how their wasting resources on surround sound, Linux, and the DAW Project stuff in this update.

So this strategy ensures that you will always have a vocal group disappointed with the release. But it also means that you'll have a vocal group excited about it. Making smaller improvements to appeal to all users with each updated might actually be a more balanced approach, but that way you'll have a less impressive-looking update to boast about, and more disappointed voices along with less excited ones. So even though there is nothing in this update that excites me, it's probably a pretty smart way of doing things for Presonus.

[Stan Navi]

I really like Open Air 2 with new IR library. Before it was unusable for me, not easy and appealing to work with. But now it became simpler and new IR library is great.

[Fornicras]

Can I mix dolby atmos with a headphone? If so, how do I set this up? I'm confused.

[skijumptoes]

Can I mix dolby atmos with a headphone? If so, how do I set this up? I'm confused.

This is quite well explained:

[Trancit]

nevermind...