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runagate wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:26 pm
vurt wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:53 pm ooh, surround sound, nice!
More exciting, in a way, is that the built-in binaural 3D allows one to compose in surround without actually having a bunch of speakers all over, something I've done in my own jerry-rigged way for at least 15 years and I greatly appreciate these updates.

My first surround mixes which you heard way back in the day were mixed in a tiny employee cabin in a fjord of Alaska using a Radio Shack 5.1 system... the 3D routing using an Alesis keyboards "infrared Theremin MIDI" things, which is also how I automated multiple parameters on vocal fx chains to make "synth leads". I wish I had the FL project for one of them, it's still one of my favorite solos I've recorded
the local "space" that if i ever play out, that's where it will be, has surround capability :party:
i can mess with minds with that, spinning a drone around the room :wheee:

made myself queasy one night using 4 speakers and uhe cvilization to spin some bits around my head. :drunk:
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listen tool from the current mouse position (like in FL Studio) with pressed command+right mouse button, it was so convenient in FLS ... I've missed it
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eventtap = hs.eventtap.new({
  hs.eventtap.event.types.rightMouseDown,
  hs.eventtap.event.types.rightMouseUp,
}, function(event)
  if event:getType() == hs.eventtap.event.types.rightMouseDown then
    if event:getFlags().cmd then
	hs.eventtap.event.newKeyEvent('6', true):post()
	hs.eventtap.event.newMouseEvent(hs.eventtap.event.types.leftMouseDown, hs.mouse.absolutePosition()):post()
	hs.eventtap.event.newMouseEvent(hs.eventtap.event.types.leftMouseUp, hs.mouse.absolutePosition()):post()
      	hs.eventtap.event.newKeyEvent('space', true):post()
      return true
    end
  elseif event:getType() == hs.eventtap.event.types.rightMouseUp then
    if event:getFlags().cmd then
	hs.eventtap.event.newKeyEvent('1', true):post()
	hs.eventtap.event.newKeyEvent('space', true):post()
      return true
    end
  end
  return false
end)

eventtap:start()

lua script needs https://www.hammerspoon.org/ to able to run in the background

another gift to humanity from chatGPT :borg: mac only
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chk071 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:06 pm Consider that probably less than 1% of audio software users are Linux users, it doesn't really surprise me that they "tuck it away". At least I wouldn't see a reason to market a new version of the DAW with that.

It surprises me that they even develop a Linux version. Sounds like a big waste of time for me, but, hey.
Seriously, why devote precious development resources to a Linux version? Unless there is some upcoming server-based, cloud version of Studio One in the works, what could a Linux version possibly offer?

I of course realize there are contrarian Linux diehards. More power to you comrades.

For the other 99% of us "corporate toadies," I really can't see any advantages. In over 30 years of using both Macs and PCs side by side, I've never had a virus. So security can't be it. And it's certainly not the UI or availability of native software applications. So as you say, it "sounds like a big waste of time."

But, hey. :)

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THE INTRANCER wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:25 pm All they need now is clip launching and Studio One will have everything one could want in a DAW.
Oh dude, why ruin such a good thing? When Live was first released, I really, really wanted to like it. But the "clip launching" was such a sad acquiescence to people who are seemingly incapable of working out song arrangements in their head that it annoyed me beyond belief. It didn't matter whether I never switched to the clip launcher view. Simply knowing it was there completely ruined the experience for me. I just felt "dirty."

Cubase and Studio One are the last two DAWs geared to serious songwriters and professional composers. I might not be able to stop the onslaught of horrible popular music, but I can at least take a stand with regards to my DAW.

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Famous Last Words wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:13 pm
Cubase and Studio One are the last two DAWs geared to serious songwriters and professional composers...
I'm assuming you're referring to Windows software? I have seen lots of pro songwriters/composers using Logic....

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Famous Last Words wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:57 pm ...

For the other 99% of us "corporate toadies," I really can't see any advantages. In over 30 years of using both Macs and PCs side by side, I've never had a virus. So security can't be it. And it's certainly not the UI or availability of native software applications. So as you say, it "sounds like a big waste of time."

But, hey. :)
Perhaps you should have a deeper look into the Microsoft Service Agreement changes of the last 5 years (I think this will be more or less the same for Apple users) to have an idea how they constantly give themselves more and more control and power to judge over you if what you are doing is in their eyes "correct" or if you need to be banned from your machine... or if they want to use any content from you for marketing purposes... well they simply can without asking you...
by continuing using their software you have automatically agreed to all of these changes... :tu:

And this is just the beginning... atm it might be still invisible for many... until they bite you in the *ss... 8)

It´s not always about technical aspects...

For me personally, I really wish I would be smart enough to be able to use Linux and I hope the more companies supporting Linux the more Linux will probably be accessable for idiots like me...
I would change over to Linux faster than light...
So every company going the Linux way is very appreciated here and every software purchase for me in future will always consider if Linux is an option or not...
I won´t buy anything anymore which isn´t supported or at least most likely that it will be in future... or at least is known for running well under i.e. Wine (not sure what other "wrappers" are available for Linux as well) ...

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Trancit wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:09 am Perhaps you should have a deeper look into the Microsoft Service Agreement changes of the last 5 years (I think this will be more or less the same for Apple users) to have an idea how they constantly give themselves more and more control and power to judge over you if what you are doing is in their eyes "correct" or if you need to be banned from your machine... or if they want to use any content from you for marketing purposes... well they simply can without asking you...
by continuing using their software you have automatically agreed to all of these changes... :tu:
Believe that if you want. The vast majority of the things stated in the service agreement changes are due to changed EU or global law, and companies have to draft that for the first time. That's why these agreements change so often, not because evil pevil corporation wants to have even more control. That's the version for people who can't tie their own shoes.

Those are the things which make software products more expensive for the customer, by the way. Lawyers and setting up or revising license or usage agreements costs money every time the EU decides to change something again, which results in higher costs, which have been forwarded to the customer, of course. Thanks a lot.

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chk071 wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:54 am Believe that if you want. The vast majority of the things stated in the service agreement changes are due to changed EU or global law, and companies have to draft that for the first time. That's why these agreements change so often, not because evil pevil corporation wants to have even more control. That's the version for people who can't tie their own shoes.

...
And you think that makes things better... it doesn´t matter from which side it comes... it just matters who´s participating and who doesn´t...

I am not a huge fan of having a "department of truth" which decides what may be said and what not... violating their own charta... and exactly this is what´s actually happening...
And Microsoft, Google, Apple are happy to jump on the censoring train as soon as they can...

If you believe you can stick your head in the sand and that this storm will pass by not affecting you I wish you good luck... I like better to be prepared... these people just have begun to roll out their terror and everything they decide will be taken over by the named company within a blink of an eye...

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^^^
it will have interesting consequences when megatech companies, because the resources will be exclusively theirs, create the digital heaven and hell, assuming and, of course, provided that the human soul is digitizable

ps. btw have you seen this

?
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chk071 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:06 pm Consider that probably less than 1% of audio software users are Linux users, it doesn't really surprise me that they "tuck it away". At least I wouldn't see a reason to market a new version of the DAW with that.

It surprises me that they even develop a Linux version. Sounds like a big waste of time for me, but, hey.
If I'm not mistaken, most of the development tools used these days support Linux, so it's not the massive commitment it used to be. And Linux remains popular with the type of folks who program as you can muck about with low-level stuff.

As frustrated as I am with some aspects of Bitwig, I do appreciate their (and Presonus's in this case) efforts to establish non-proprietary standards.

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xbitz wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:54 am it will have interesting consequences when megatech companies, because the resources will be exclusively theirs, create the digital heaven and hell, assuming and, of course, provided that the human soul is digitizable
While stated a little hyperbolically, THAT is a very legitimate concern, and not some irrational delusion about "Evil Corp" Tech companies trying to limit your "First Amendment Rights" to say conspiratorial nonsense that is patently untrue.

Putting all-powerful AI is the hands of a few Tech billionaires is not only an existential threat to democracy but of the very survival of the human race.

Taking a stand for music software development on the Linux platform is such an absurd, trivial issue by comparison.

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FWIW, I am hoping that Presonus puts a moratorium on "development" and does what Gerhard Behles did with Ableton Live did back around Live 8 when they stopped introducing features as Mr. Behles directed the Live developers to clean up all the loose ends that already had been introduced and fix the bugs that had never been properly addressed (and were affecting the stability of the platform.) I have often admired Ableton for doing that even though I don't use the software; it was a brave and humble move on their part, one time in the industry when integrity won out over hype and a demand for profits at the expense of quality.
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My main request from Presonus is to greatly improve CPU efficiency, and reduce sluggishness when using large Orch. Templates, i.e. 200 or more track template in S1Pro.

Cubase 12 Pro is much snappier, and efficient according to media composers who have tested it with both these DAWs, they use Cubase Pro, instead of Studio One Pro, mainly because of this weakenss in S1Pro.

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Muziksculp wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:03 pm My main request from Presonus is to greatly improve CPU efficiency, and reduce sluggishness when using large Orch. Templates, i.e. 200 or more track template in S1Pro.

Cubase 12 Pro is much snappier, and efficient according to media composers who have tested it with both these DAWs, they use Cubase Pro, instead of Studio One Pro, mainly because of this weakenss in S1Pro.
idk anything about this topic but with studio one adding linux support wont they focus on stability on 3 OSs? let alone sub versions of those OSs. anyone who code know if supporting an additional OS adds strain on the development of things like program efficiency or does it improve it having to have things super tight to be able to work on all 3? explain it to me like im 5
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qtheerearranger wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:33 pm idk anything about this topic but with studio one adding linux support wont they focus on stability on 3 OSs? let alone sub versions of those OSs. anyone who code know if supporting an additional OS adds strain on the development of things like program efficiency or does it improve it having to have things super tight to be able to work on all 3? explain it to me like im 5
I'm no programmer, but, surely it will add strain. You have platform specific differences and bugs which are specific to the different platforms.

TBH, it's beyond me why they decided to support Linux. It's virtually non existant in music production. But, hey, I guess they have their reasons. Whatever those will be.

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