Studio One 6.5 Released!

[eerie_audio]

idk anything about this topic but with studio one adding linux support wont they focus on stability on 3 OSs? let alone sub versions of those OSs. anyone who code know if supporting an additional OS adds strain on the development of things like program efficiency or does it improve it having to have things super tight to be able to work on all 3? explain it to me like im 5

I'm no programmer, but, surely it will add strain. You have platform specific differences and bugs which are specific to the different platforms.

TBH, it's beyond me why they decided to support Linux. It's virtually non existant in music production. But, hey, I guess they have their reasons. Whatever those will be.

It's because Bitwig supports it.

[skijumptoes]

I'm no programmer, but, surely it will add strain. You have platform specific differences and bugs which are specific to the different platforms.

Not so much nowadays, as the guts of the software is being coded within a framework and that's where most of the coding and design take place.

The framework takes care of the differences across O/S's, and that will be dealt with by the low level staff, or already taken care of by third party frameworks.

Once you have a robust framework the overhead isn't too bad, supporting that userbase is probably the bigger issue, hence why a lot of companies stay in beta for Linux releases.

It's near impossible to train staff up for all the possible combinations of linux out there to offer a decent level of support.

[concealed identity]

I remember reading more then one article written by a video game developer about how Linux users made up 1% of their user base but something like 20% of their support requests. But judging from what people here say about the helpfulness of Presonus' customer support, it might not make much of a difference

[Muziksculp]

idk anything about this topic but with studio one adding linux support wont they focus on stability on 3 OSs? let alone sub versions of those OSs. anyone who code know if supporting an additional OS adds strain on the development of things like program efficiency or does it improve it having to have things super tight to be able to work on all 3? explain it to me like im 5

I'm no programmer, but, surely it will add strain. You have platform specific differences and bugs which are specific to the different platforms.

TBH, it's beyond me why they decided to support Linux. It's virtually non existant in music production. But, hey, I guess they have their reasons. Whatever those will be.

Yeah, this is a very odd decision. I agree. I wonder why.

[BBFG#]

Maybe they see a future others can't even imagine.
This thread is beginning to sound a bit like when the youngest child realizes they're about to become the middle child.

[THE INTRANCER]

Studio One won't just be a DAW, it will be a new distro eco-system with support for their hardware which would mean that they could have hardware with Studio One built into it. For example, a controller keyboard (module based integrated with a computer and a large touch screen). - Well one could dream I guess.

[syntonica]

Seriously, why devote precious development resources to a Linux version? Unless there is some upcoming server-based, cloud version of Studio One in the works, what could a Linux version possibly offer?

It's not really that huge of an effort, especially if you have a Linux-cognizant programmer. You just need to write the graphic backend (a few hundred lines of code) and the file management backend (a handful of lines of code.) Linux will closely mirror either Windows (for OpenGL) or Mac (for file management.)

Linux can offer a multi-media optimized environment to run your creative applications without random, proprietary garbage processes randomly eating up your resources. But Windows and Mac suffer from this. There's also no constant forced updates that can possibly break your software, as long as a standardized distribution is used.

[chk071]

Maybe they see a future others can't even imagine.

True. I can't imagine that kind of future at all.

It never happened in home computing either, you know.

[BBFG#]

Maybe they see a future others can't even imagine.

True. I can't imagine that kind of future at all.

It never happened in home computing either, you know.

The future is multidimensional.
Including their futures in market niches as well. Not sure why this causes any to panic as it seems they do. Fear of having to share the companies attention?

I finally got around to booting up Ubuntu Studio 23 and the immediate thing I got from it is how much "smoother" it felt. Having all those useless programs removed from the start is nice.

From the first time I started using Windows back in the '90s, the thing I most liked about it was the ability to strip it down and fine tune it for my purposes. Those days are long gone. And my last Mac was such a bloated POS, the only time I deal with them is when someone else is having a problem with theirs that they want me to fix.

I noticed that the world servers are becoming more and more, Linux. That workstations are do some distro of Linux. And that my freedom to customize is probably Linux.
And while I want to keep abreast of all the different OSs, my personal future appears to be Linux.
(Been reading up on BSD {Dragonfly} as well and seeing things I hope Linux adopts in some form as well.)

[dlandis]

I remember reading more then one article written by a video game developer about how Linux users made up 1% of their user base but something like 20% of their support requests. But judging from what people here say about the helpfulness of Presonus' customer support, it might not make much of a difference

To be fair to Presonus' customer support, it's hardly all from their end. There are some good eggs there (although, there is/was at least one individual who was pretty worthless; I don't know if he is still employed there as I haven't run into him in a while.) There seems to be a lack of communication (intentional?) between the developers and the customer support people that often leaves the CS people holding the bag and looking like idiots while trying to tread water with the disgruntled users. To put it differently: how do you tell someone waiting for a much needed bug fix not to hold his or her breath without putting it just that way?

There is also, of course, the truly determinative problem, however: bad priorities regarding the allocation of the pool of technological talent and business paradigms. For every new feature added, there seems to be a number of users that very quickly come up with shortcomings regarding the implementation of the attribute; often bugs are also noticed that hamper the use of the feature in a given number of situations. Some of this may be grousing (that is bound to happen,) but often the complaints are valid and relatively significant.

I am not one to generally whine about issues in software, preferring to work around what I can after I make my concerns known to the powers that be. With Presonus, however, I'm beginning to note the same sort of business model behavior that worked to doom Cakewalk until Band Lab took it over: a proliferation of errors, bugs, and half-thought out ideas that finally gained a critical mass that crushed the platform. I mentioned Ableton Live in another post as an example of a company that did it right, recognizing the error in this sort of approach and stepping away from adding features until those already onboard were remedied. I'm really hoping that Presonus can do something similar before its reputation is destroyed. It has so much to offer.

[jamcat]

Huh.

[qtheerearranger]

Huh.

I actually never use mix fx but i can confirm brit console is bugged just tried to open it in atmos after your post. None of the mix fx seem to work. Im no engineer but the sounds still process but they sit very flat in the spatial audio field.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Huh.

This error is simply saying: "You are in ATMOS mode and you are trying to use a plugin that is not designed for ATMOS mode".

If/when Brit Console becomes ATMOS compliant - it should be fine.

VP

[jamcat]

Huh.

This error is simply saying: "You are in ATMOS mode and you are trying to use a plugin that is not designed for ATMOS mode".

If/when Brit Console becomes ATMOS compliant - it should be fine.

Yeah, I gathered that. I’m just surprised that PreSonus didn’t make their own Mix Engine ATMOS compliant (yet).

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Yeah, I gathered that. I’m just surprised that PreSonus didn’t make their own Mix Engine ATMOS compliant (yet).

I am certain that there is nothing wrong at all with the Studio One Mix engine (when switched to ATMOS mode).

PreSonus had to be 100% compliant with the (very) strict ATMOS specifications and "rules" stipulated by Dolby Labs that allowed them to build the elegant integration of ATMOS into Studio One 6.5 in the first place.

This a plugin issue - not a mix engine problem. And if needed - one that Presonus will no doubt address in a future update. I do think they will want these Mix FX working.

VP