What's Ableton up to?

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Or you drag it to the project folder in the browser to save it and delete it afterwards...
If you ever have the need to bring the original back, just drag it in from the browser...

I hate when I overlook the obvious. This trick would've been useful a looooong time ago.

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most popular according to who? KVR polls? LMAO

According to the sheer number of tutorials on youtube and the respective view counts

Tutorials on youtube? That only tells me people have a hard time wrapping their head around it, and youtubers know this so they monetize on tutorials SMH

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FYI Avid net worth $400M, Ableton $112M......so theres that.

[Trancit]

Or you drag it to the project folder in the browser to save it and delete it afterwards...
If you ever have the need to bring the original back, just drag it in from the browser...

I hate when I overlook the obvious. This trick would've been useful a looooong time ago.

I think this is one of the strongest features of Live that you can simply drag entire tracks or groups to the browser to save them including everything... very nice

[chk071]

Do we really have to discuss if Ableton is one of the most popular DAWs? I don't know how there can be any doubt that it's in the top 5 of most popular DAWs out there. It's literally all over the place, wherever you look.

[Trancit]

most popular according to who? KVR polls? LMAO

According to the sheer number of tutorials on youtube and the respective view counts

Tutorials on youtube? That only tells me people have a hard time wrapping their head around it, and youtubers know this so they monetize on tutorials SMH

Nonetheless is he right... Ableton for sure is one of the most successful DAWs out there...
Standalone it´s already very widely spreaded and additionally many Cubase/S1/Logic users use it in a parallel setup...

I would say behind FLS it´s number 2 of the most sold DAWs

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Do we really have to discuss if Ableton is one of the most popular DAWs? I don't know how there can be any doubt that it's in the top 5 of most popular DAWs out there. It's literally all over the place, wherever you look.

So is FL Studio. Look, when it comes to hip hop (probably the most popular music genre in the world), the majority of producers use FL Studio. At least if you follow hip hop you will know this. Thats not to say Logic, Ableton and others are not also almost equally used. I think the playing field is far closer than what people make it out to be. To say one is above the other based on annual revenue is stupid. You know damn well Ableton made a killing on Push devices, that helped them pump up their numbers. If FL Studio had their own device (not made by a third party) I think their numbers would blow up as well. Im talking about a legit device not the akai fire (you know revenue went to akai), or the FL Key(you know revenue went to Novation)

Thank you very much

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Do we really have to discuss if Ableton is one of the most popular DAWs? I don't know how there can be any doubt that it's in the top 5 of most popular DAWs out there. It's literally all over the place, wherever you look.

So is FL Studio. Look, when it comes to hip hop (probably the most popular music genre in the world), the majority of producers use FL Studio. At least if you follow hip hop you will know this. Thats not to say Logic, Ableton and others are not also almost equally used. I think the playing field is far closer than what people make it out to be. To say one is above the other based on annual revenue is stupid. You know damn well Ableton made a killing on Push devices, that helped them pump up their numbers. If FL Studio had their own device (not made by a third party) I think their numbers would blow up as well. Im talking about a legit device not the akai fire (you know revenue went to akai), or the FL Key(you know revenue went to Novation)

Thank you very much

Nah bro, I know damn well people get mentally butthurt trying to learn ableton so they are on youtube like crazy trying to learn it lmao

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In regard to Avid annual revenue, its avid. You know they have serious hardware pumping up those numbers, and its the industry standard. I think what Im trying to say is that you cant base popularity on numbers because hardware has a lot to do with the numbers

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Now in 2023:

1. Live
2. Logic
3. Pro tools

And Reaper is the underdog that sneaks up and takes honorable mention. You can argue that all you like it won't change the fact.
Studio One seems to be catching up though.

[Opaque]

...Then again, it's impossible to hide it (ike e.g. in Reaper) so it takes up screen space or has to be foldered with all such tracks which is again extra work.
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Or you drag it to the project folder in the browser to save it and delete it afterwards...
If you ever have the need to bring the original back, just drag it in from the browser...

Don't rely on freezing so I was suggesting from the top of my head, but actually yes, a much smarter solution that utilizes an aspect of Live's idiosyncratic workflow which can easily be overlooked if one is new to it.

[ohdoubleu]

and while I'm ranting, I still absolutely hate how they just erased the feature where you could just drag down/up while drawing notes to change velocity

Absolutely. It seems minor in theory, but it's definitely one of the many small reasons I'm still on Live 10, despite there being some great features in 11. It really feels like the most efficient way to edit velocity values to me - all from just the mouse and in one gesture - plus 10-15 years of muscle memory are hard to undo!

I remember it coming up on Centercode during the beta but, obviously, to no avail. I do wish that they had a checkbox for the previous behaviour, or even an Options.txt entry...

[liquidsound]

and while I'm ranting, I still absolutely hate how they just erased the feature where you could just drag down/up while drawing notes to change velocity

Absolutely. It seems minor in theory, but it's definitely one of the many small reasons I'm still on Live 10, despite there being some great features in 11. It really feels like the most efficient way to edit velocity values to me - all from just the mouse and in one gesture - plus 10-15 years of muscle memory are hard to undo!

I remember it coming up on Centercode during the beta but, obviously, to no avail. I do wish that they had a checkbox for the previous behaviour, or even an Options.txt entry...

Are you both totally lost?
You can still do that in Ableton 11

[ohdoubleu]

and while I'm ranting, I still absolutely hate how they just erased the feature where you could just drag down/up while drawing notes to change velocity

Absolutely. It seems minor in theory, but it's definitely one of the many small reasons I'm still on Live 10, despite there being some great features in 11. It really feels like the most efficient way to edit velocity values to me - all from just the mouse and in one gesture - plus 10-15 years of muscle memory are hard to undo!

I remember it coming up on Centercode during the beta but, obviously, to no avail. I do wish that they had a checkbox for the previous behaviour, or even an Options.txt entry...

Are you both totally lost?
You can still do that in Ableton 11

That's possible, I may have missed something since I last checked the Live 11 release notes. The difference, as I recall, is that in 10, if you place a note a keep the mouse button pressed down, moving the cursor up and down changes the velocity of the note and moving the cursor left and right adds more notes on at that velocity on that row - according to the grid size (or changes the length of the note if the grid is disabled). You can still change the velocity of those notes, by moving the cursor up or down, as long as you keep the mouse pressed down. This means that in one click, you can add a row of, say, 16th notes, at any velocity.

In 11, I seem to remember that if you click to add a note and keep the mouse button held down, moving the cursor up and down moves the note up and down the keyboard, and moving it left and right adds notes - either constrained to the row or up and down the keyboard/scale according to an option in preferences. Neither lets change you the velocity in the same gesture.

[Opaque]

and while I'm ranting, I still absolutely hate how they just erased the feature where you could just drag down/up while drawing notes to change velocity

Absolutely. It seems minor in theory, but it's definitely one of the many small reasons I'm still on Live 10, despite there being some great features in 11. It really feels like the most efficient way to edit velocity values to me - all from just the mouse and in one gesture - plus 10-15 years of muscle memory are hard to undo!

I remember it coming up on Centercode during the beta but, obviously, to no avail. I do wish that they had a checkbox for the previous behaviour, or even an Options.txt entry...

Are you both totally lost?
You can still do that in Ableton 11

That's possible, I may have missed something since I last checked the Live 11 release notes. The difference, as I recall, is that in 10, if you place a note a keep the mouse button pressed down, moving the cursor up and down changes the velocity of the note and moving the cursor left and right adds more notes on at that velocity on that row - according to the grid size (or changes the length of the note if the grid is disabled). You can still change the velocity of those notes, by moving the cursor up or down, as long as you keep the mouse pressed down. This means that in one click, you can add a row of, say, 16th notes, at any velocity.

In 11, I seem to remember that if you click to add a note and keep the mouse button held down, moving the cursor up and down moves the note up and down the keyboard, and moving it left and right adds notes - either constrained to the row or up and down the keyboard/scale according to an option in preferences. Neither lets change you the velocity in the same gesture.

If you double click with the mouse to add a note, holding the mouse and dragging horizontally will change the note length, dragging vertically adjusts the velocity.

If you are using the pencil tool, if you just click and drag, you are adding notes to different rows and columns you are dragging over. If you click and hold Alt after adding a note, the notes added will be constrained to the same horizontal row, and if you hold Alt+Ctrl after adding a note, dragging up-down will adjust velocity.