KVR Audio

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:14 am

Maybe i am overlooking something, but it does not run.
Are there any other alternatives to run windows apps on mac M1 chips ?

Etienne1973 · Post by **Etienne1973** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:37 am

How to install Windows 11 on Apple Silicon Macs with free VMware Fusion Player [Video]
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kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm

You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.

hcv242 · Post by **hcv242** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:33 pm

kidslow wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.

only for intel mac

Jolaff · Post by **Jolaff** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:46 pm

hcv242 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:33 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.
only for intel mac

I'm not too used with those stuff so maybe I'm missing something but I see "Intel or Apple Silicon" on that link....

uOpt · Post by **uOpt** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:29 pm

Jolaff wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:46 pm
hcv242 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:33 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.
only for intel mac
I'm not too used with those stuff so maybe I'm missing something but I see "Intel or Apple Silicon" on that link....

Yeah, but you need the Windows-on-ARM versions of the Windows executables you want to run.

Wine and variants do not do CPU emulation.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:22 pm

uOpt wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:29 pm
Jolaff wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:46 pm
hcv242 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:33 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.
only for intel mac
I'm not too used with those stuff so maybe I'm missing something but I see "Intel or Apple Silicon" on that link....
Yeah, but you need the Windows-on-ARM versions of the Windows executables you want to run.

Wine and variants do not do CPU emulation.

I just opened Excel 2010 in CrossOver on an M1. So I should believe you instead of my lying eyes when you're telling me that's either the ARM version of Office 2010 or it won't open?

It's hit & miss what does work and getting audio +/- MIDI requires some next level debugging. Maybe the CPU architecture is the root cause of the problems I see ... but also not clear it has anything to do with the CPU architecture. Audio on Windows is just fraught!

[EDIT: I just got Kontakt 1.5.3 for Windows working in crossover, because it appears to support direct sound through the Crossover driver. The problems I'm seeing all seem to be with audio applications for windows that require ASIO. For all the complaining that I hear about Macs, CoreAudio just works. None of this ASIO b.s.]

Vaultnaemsae · Post by **Vaultnaemsae** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:48 am

hcv242 wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:33 pm
kidslow wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:53 pm You can definitely do it with Codeweaver's Crossover.
only for intel mac

I use CrossOver on an M1 to run legacy Roland device editors. Works a treat. Even recognizes MIDI ports from macOS.

MadDogE134 · Post by **MadDogE134** » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:41 am

don't drink wine but i have spilt a beer or two over the years but those were on PCs lol

mustgroove · Post by **mustgroove** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:57 pm

In my experience, Crossover doesn't work super well in many use cases for audio Windows apps on Mac - e.g. Audiogridder.

The alternative is to run a full Windows installation in a VM. UTM is a great (free & open source) option - https://github.com/utmapp/UTM

On M1 Macs, it'll run Windows 11 for ARM, which runs at near-native speed (no emulation).

rACatkvr · Post by **rACatkvr** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:17 am

A bit surprised no one has mentioned parallels as an option as well.

mustgroove · Post by **mustgroove** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:42 am

Parallels works great too, and graphically things are way smoother with Parallels, but UTM is free & open source.

Wine on mac m1