What's Ableton up to?

[machinesworking]

Oh god please tell me this isn't true. Grindcore is slowly surfacing more and more. Are you telling me we'll have boy bands singing love songs pig style? I swear I'll become president and push the red button. TWICE.

Let me introduce you to screamo, OK I take that back, do not google screamo.

Popular music is not bad. Popular music is shoved and that"s imposement which becomes "bad music". I love the Purple Rain era of Prince but holy f**k give it a rest. Way too imposed. But it's genius work nonetheless.

IMO a big part of pop is production value and marketing, some things with huge productions, and extreme marketing can be pretty interesting. I often think I would love non vocal versions of pop music. Any number of Beyonce and Spears songs done by producers have interesting musical arrangements, and standard pop vocals. Basically there's talent there, it's just covered in smarm usually. Prince was capable of producing all his own music, so he kind of fits into another genre of pop musicians, the McCartney, Swift, Elton level of pop music.

[Bako]

Still on version 8 and have no plans to ever use clip launching again unless each clip can contain a full modular environment.
That would be a good move for Ableton.
Each clip can contain exclusive multi instruments, effects with it's equence or multi audio tracks with it's own tempo and timing settings.
Tracks of clips can be arranged in the arrangement view and the session view becomes a matrix where any clips can be triggered alone or in any group.
Until then, clips are for sissies.

for that I will ditch every DAW I use and jump on Ableton vagon . it's global preset snapshots esentialy you are talking about. you might want to check out Usine by Brainmodular . preset snapshots .

[Guenon]

I used Live 8 for nine years, pretty soon (like, in six months or something like that) I have been using Live 10 for five years already. I'm quite sure it's easily got five more years in it, hah. Also using Reaper alongside Live for about eight years already, though. For me, it's more about how much I vibe with the hosting environment, and the stuff I'm hosting inside it is the... cutting edge stuff, if anything

[? ? ?]

Let me introduce you to screamo, OK I take that back, do not google screamo.

I googled screamo and now i shall push the red button.
Actually that garbage has been going on for a while now. You can thank Linkin Park to get the ball rolling on that crap.
The music sounds like 12 year old boys writing a tune; they like Pantera but the girl they have a crush on likes their best friend. Voila.
I take it back, popular music is pure living hell. In fact, that would be my hell; God sends me down and says i have to mix and master Screamo bands forever and ever.

it's global preset snapshots esentialy you are talking about. you might want to check out Usine by Brainmodular . preset snapshots .

Usine has the right idea but loading that app feels like work. It's too stiff of a DAW vs Live. With the latter I can load up and flow out a tune fairly quickly, at least with the session view. The arrangement view....well let's just say I have no idea how I managed to get anything done in arrangement view.

[Atlatnesiti]

Me thinks that Ableton is up something

[liquidsound]

Me thinks that Ableton is up something

A big change is on its way… it’s in the air

[kinkajou]

Me thinks that Ableton is up something

A big change is on its way… it’s in the air

Real knowledge or just speculation?
Can't help myself but I'm always really hyped when something new is coming from Ableton....

[xbitz]

hope it gonna get a dedicated mixer view...finally or the


gonna get the official support at least

[jules99]

Me thinks that Ableton is up something

A big change is on its way… it’s in the air

As much as I'd love to be hyped, didn't we just get 11.3? I mean there could be 11.4 coming early next year with Operator finally MPE-capable, but other than that, it's hard to imagine any ground-breaking new things. I'd love to be proven wrong though

[Bako]

Let me introduce you to screamo, OK I take that back, do not google screamo.

I googled screamo and now i shall push the red button.
Actually that garbage has been going on for a while now. You can thank Linkin Park to get the ball rolling on that crap.
The music sounds like 12 year old boys writing a tune; they like Pantera but the girl they have a crush on likes their best friend. Voila.
I take it back, popular music is pure living hell. In fact, that would be my hell; God sends me down and says i have to mix and master Screamo bands forever and ever.

it's global preset snapshots esentialy you are talking about. you might want to check out Usine by Brainmodular . preset snapshots .

Usine has the right idea but loading that app feels like work. It's too stiff of a DAW vs Live. With the latter I can load up and flow out a tune fairly quickly, at least with the session view. The arrangement view....well let's just say I have no idea how I managed to get anything done in arrangement view.

Usine is very Modular unlike anyng esle in the market DAW . agree it's different and you have to get used to it but you can do mindblowing things using it and it has much more advanced Bitwig's Grid like enviroment . loading app can be easier then you experienced if you save your vsts as racks and you just drag and drop configured rack into project like in Live . only thing is you have to make this racks but you do it once . Usine is very elastic DAW it can be flexible . just have to get used to it. Live was the first DAW in 2001 , remeber I discovered . it was revolutionary . over the year others copied it but my point is , in this day n age we are spoiled by adandance of very capable software and we rightfully , i mean users demand feature that make developers go ...Woooot ??? thing from developers poin of view not very easy to implement . what i'm leaning towards is what your wish is ... well similar . today we are mix engineers , mastering engineers , sound designers and musicians in one . 20 years ago were tottaly different . we were just musician and whatever musical ideas we had we instanly produced it through our chosen instrument/s .no delay .no clicking ,copyin abd pasting and all that .today we demand that DAWs become like musical instrumet . if we have idea or sound in our head ,we have to lay it down fast that's what ocasinaly a brag about in my forum threads . Global Snapshots like Usine has . you twick your vsts as much as needed , adjust track volume projectwide , reverb / Fx amount whatever you can think of without worrying about automations and all and once you get a beat no worries click save snapshot and DAW saves everything . move on to next bet without needing to reopen another instances of VST or carzy automation drawing . and snapshots you save ..300 of them if you want are loadable on track as regions . you can make these regions 1 beat or 64 bits long if you want . that's what Usine can do and every modern DAW should be able to do . Bitwig got ever so close to this Idea with latest version by implementing global modulatoion system but no snapshot no saing ability . may be soon . i don't know . may be Ableton will do it first ! then if they do ...Live will reclaim i's top spot in DAW market . we want our instrument back into our hand as DAWs.

[SLiC]

I don't know what's coming next but 11 (and the subsequent free point updates) was a superb update and I think Ableton are back on track with MPE and PUSH3 etc.

Live (and Bitwig) are both missing audio pitch quantise (Melodyne style) and I feel that the last bit of the jigsaw for both.

[sQeetz]

hope it gonna get a dedicated mixer view...finally or the


gonna get the official support at least

Yes, please!

[machinesworking]

Love Live, but my main complaint is waiting decades for what are basic things, full screen piano roll took a decade. Now plugin slots in the mixer will probably take the same amount of time. . The problem with the WYSIWYG UX mantra is it becomes tied to it's own 'clever' use cases, folding MIDI subwindows etc.

[Jaaba]

I'm still on the 9 Suite. Apart from the lacking support of VST3, is there something else worth upgrading?

[topaz]

Same, I don't really care what is in 11. The upgrade price from suite 9 to 11 of £179 is just ridiculous

I'm still on the 9 Suite. Apart from the lacking support of VST3, is there something else worth upgrading?